To: All
Methane From Marble: An Abiogenic Source of Hydrocarbons in the Earth's Deep Interior?
Methane gas has been synthesized from wustite, calcite and water at high temperatures and pressures in the diamond anvil cell, demonstrating abiogenic pathways for the formation of hydrocarbons in the Earth's deep interior. Bubbles formed in the mixture (bottom, left and near the center in the photomicrograph above) upon decompression to 0.5 GPa after laser heating at 5.7 GPa give a Raman spectrum consistent with the formation of methane. For more information, and to download a reprint of the paper [Scott, H., et al., Proc. Nat. Acad. Sci., 101, 14023-14026 (2004)], see the links
,a href=http://cdac.ciw.edu/methane_marble.html>A Center of Excellence for High Pressure Science and Technology
2 posted on
10/10/2004 11:14:58 PM PDT by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Interesting scientific bump.
3 posted on
10/10/2004 11:15:28 PM PDT by
FreedomCalls
(It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Set up at pipe system at DNC HQ or the Kennedy compound, all the methane you'll ever need.
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Why would we need to mess around with rocks when we know perfectly well that beans are a renewable resource?
7 posted on
10/10/2004 11:17:46 PM PDT by
RichInOC
(Roll that beautiful bean footage...)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Highly cool! (Or, actually, I guess, highly hot.)
Thanks for posting.
9 posted on
10/10/2004 11:26:32 PM PDT by
Restorer
(Europe is heavily armed, but only with envy.)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Fossil fuels get their name from the ancient plants and animals that decayed to form oil, gas and coal. But now scientists have created methane gas without any biological matter, suggesting that the fossil fuel supply may not be entirely dependent on fossils after all.
...or dependent on fossils at all! Thomas Gold has suffered a lot of derision from the "end of oil industry". Maybe this will help rehabilitate this man's work!
Hydrocarbon Fuels Aren't Fossils
by Paul Sheridan
The Deep Hot Biosphere
Thomas Gold
New York: Copernicus, 1999
Hardcover, 235 pp., $27.00
"Gold's theories are always original, always important, usually controversial - and usually right. It is my belief, based on 50 years of observation of Gold as a friend and colleague, that the deep hot biosphere is all of the above: original, important, controversial - and right."
- From the Foreword by Freeman Dyson, Institute for Advanced Study, Princeton
The Deep Hot Biosphere is a culmination of more than 50 years of the life of its remarkable author, astrophysicist Thomas Gold, of Cornell University. Gold was a founding director for the Cornell University Center for Radiophysics and Space Research, chairman of Cornell's Department of Astronomy, and is the author of more than 280 papers in the areas of cosmology, zoology, physics, and astronomy.
Gold's thesis in The Deep Hot Biosphere is simple: Hydrocarbons have been in existence since the earliest times of the universe, and are part of the process of planetary formation. Their constituents, hydrogen and carbon, originated in the "primordial soup" from which Earth was formed. Earth's methane and petroleum, Gold says, are abiogenic - without biological origin.
Contrary to the currently promoted explanation, Cold says that hydrocarbons did not dissociate during these early times because of high temperatures of planet formation, as theorists claim. Current geological science, he shows, affirms that the temperatures were not high enough, especially when depth-related pressures are taken into account.
Gold contends that hydrocarbon sources can be found at great depths below the surface, not a few miles, but a few hundred miles. The deep-Earth sources of hydrocarbons are still working to this day, pumping tons of petroleum and methane gas up through the deep Earth's cracks and pores to the shallow sedimentary levels. It is here that drilling rigs access the upwelling that has been vertically dammed into reservoirs, Gold says. Hydrocarbons did not come from rotting prehistoric plants; they were here a few billion years before life occurred.
[SNIP]
Rest at
http://mitosyfraudes.8k.com/INGLES-2/FossilFuels.html
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; abbi_normal_2; Ace2U; adam_az; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; alphadog; amom; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
15 posted on
10/10/2004 11:31:52 PM PDT by
farmfriend
( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
An even Larger source of Methane has been discovered in THIS man's couch cushions...
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; blam
If methane gas was always the product of biological matter, then detecting methane in the atmosphere of another planet would be a sure sign that some sort of life form had existed there at some point, said geologist Barbara Sherwood Lollar of the University of Toronto. Now there's a stretch.
17 posted on
10/10/2004 11:43:02 PM PDT by
Carry_Okie
(Three choices: Defeat Islam, submit, or die.)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Sorry to rain on your parade but anything that's 60 miles below the earths surface is going to require a awful lot of energy to bring to the surface.
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Methane from onions! Many old timers swear by this theory, especially if they're fried.
26 posted on
10/11/2004 1:41:01 AM PDT by
sully777
(Our descendants will be enslaved by political expediency and expenditure)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
30 posted on
10/11/2004 5:25:22 AM PDT by
tpaine
(No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The article really presents nothing new - except perhaps to the author. Abiogenic methane is known from the creation of the solar system.
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"There has been a lot of speculation about the origin of natural gas and oil," said Laurence Fried, a computational chemist at Lawrence Livermore Laboratory and a member of the research team.""If methane gas was always the product of biological matter, then detecting methane in the atmosphere of another planet would be a sure sign that some sort of life form had existed there at some point, said geologist Barbara Sherwood Lollar of the University of Toronto."
Where do they get these people?
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