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Will hydrogen from water soon run your car? ( rural communities in the pacific northwest)
The Alaska Journal of Commerce Online ^ | 09/13/04 | Tim Bradner

Posted on 10/10/2004 7:23:59 PM PDT by ckilmer

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looks like the answer is nope. not just yet. but I liked the idea of using off hour hydro to run hydrogen production.
1 posted on 10/10/2004 7:24:00 PM PDT by ckilmer
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NO .... hydrogen will take 25 yrs to develop once someone says go...... then another 10yrs to get it a staple.......


2 posted on 10/10/2004 7:25:08 PM PDT by Gibtx (Pajamahadien call to arms.....)
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Will hydrogen from water soon run your car? ( rural communities in the pacific northwest)

Not unless we turn to nuclear energy in a really big way.
3 posted on 10/10/2004 7:26:11 PM PDT by aruanan
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Ah, if only we could repeal the laws of thermodynamics.


4 posted on 10/10/2004 7:26:30 PM PDT by calenel (The Democratic Party is the Socialist Mafia. It is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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I hope that this works out, I bought a thousand dollars in Hydrogen plants for my garden that are already planted. The ad says that when the Hydr. cars come, I can make good money with my own home service station..Here's to being rich...


/sarcasm
5 posted on 10/10/2004 7:26:39 PM PDT by DSBull (Truth is the light of the World, shine it everywhere)
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"...The concept is elegant and simple.
Pull up to your neighborhood creek or tundra pond, and fill 'er up..."
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Somebody has been smoking something.


6 posted on 10/10/2004 7:26:55 PM PDT by error99
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Not my car. It barely runs on regular octane gas.


7 posted on 10/10/2004 7:28:11 PM PDT by bayourod (Even security moms should now know that you can't lead while waffling and calling Iraq the wrong war)
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"NO .... hydrogen will take 25 yrs to develop once someone says go"

Make that a BIG someone! (i.e. Executive Office status)

Then again, nanotechnology looks promising...

8 posted on 10/10/2004 7:28:26 PM PDT by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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Ah, if only we could repeal the laws of thermodynamics.


9 posted on 10/10/2004 7:29:19 PM PDT by calenel (The Democratic Party is the Socialist Mafia. It is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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When will people understand that hydrogen is an energy storage medium, not an energy source? If you see someone in a hydrogen powered car, you can ask, "Did you burn the fuel yourself to get that there hydrogen, or did you pay someone to burn it for you?"

One could also argue that coal and oil and natural gas are energy storage sources also (solar from long ago), but at least they are laying around. To get hydrogen, you need to electrolyze water, and for that you need to generate electricity--either by burning something or using nuclear power.

10 posted on 10/10/2004 7:30:08 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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I don't believe it will happen until we run out of gas or the gas companies find a way to charge us as much or more than gasoline. We cant't be allowed to just hook up to the water hose:')


11 posted on 10/10/2004 7:30:21 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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One place I already know of that produces hydrogen from water disposes of it uselessly, though for good reason.


12 posted on 10/10/2004 7:30:34 PM PDT by supercat (If Kerry becomes President, nothing bad will happen for which he won't have an excuse.)
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Nano is in the same pattern......


13 posted on 10/10/2004 7:31:02 PM PDT by Gibtx (Pajamahadien call to arms.....)
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"What's needed is a source of cheap energy to separate the hydrogen and oxygen in water"

If we had a cheap source of energy what would we need hydrogen for?

To make hydrogen from water, you simply must unburn it!

Pseudo science running around in circles.
14 posted on 10/10/2004 7:32:06 PM PDT by John Jamieson (Hybrids are a highway around CAFE, that's all they're good for.)
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Simple thermodynamics: You can't get something for nothing. It takes just as much energy to separate hydrogen from water as you get by re-combining with oxygen to get back to water. Sorry.
15 posted on 10/10/2004 7:32:09 PM PDT by antenna
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if i had a chance to get a hydrogen car i would turn it down for my 74 oldsmobile, it gets the envirowackos upset.


16 posted on 10/10/2004 7:32:37 PM PDT by blackeagle
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Hydrogen power is a giant boondoggle.

Expensive to produce, difficult to transport and store, dangerous as all hell to use, and less efficient as a power source.

I don't buy the "global warming" crapola, but it is true that there is a finite supply of hydrocarbons available. The eco-wackos won't let us drill for more oil/natural gas, and gripe loudly at the thought of coal being burned. Oil prices are high and will only get higher.

The "scientists" would serve us better if they would get off the hydrogen "high" and find another way to generate power.


17 posted on 10/10/2004 7:33:32 PM PDT by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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There is no way someone is going to invent a process to develop hydrogen cheaply...If we could do it cheaply, it will be illegal...And how much in federal and state taxes on the (free) water???


18 posted on 10/10/2004 7:33:57 PM PDT by Iscool
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Where's the guy with the "Not this **** again" graphic?


19 posted on 10/10/2004 7:34:27 PM PDT by Restorer (Europe is heavily armed, but only with envy.)
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i like oil..... it is easier to deal with ......


20 posted on 10/10/2004 7:35:04 PM PDT by Gibtx (Pajamahadien call to arms.....)
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