Posted on 10/10/2004 9:13:59 AM PDT by finnigan2
I know he has never been called by the MSM on his subersive activities and it is truly not fair.. How can people honestly vote for him with this hanging out there... I really wish one of those town hall debate questions would have been about his post war activities and his military record... I mean there is so much press on it but it is being muffeled
These two sections were repealed in 1994.
These two sections were repealed in 1994.
Yeah. What is needed is hard proof -- is that coming this month?
I agree.
this being so, and assuming the rumors are true, he must have a defense planned. any ideas about what he could say to refute this (other then saying the records are forged).
another rumor is that there is a document declaring Kerry "Unfit for Command", hence the title of the book.
bttt
Looks like 10 USC 1162 and 1163 were repealed in 1994:
10 USCS § 1162 (2004)
[§ 1162. Repealed]
HISTORY; ANCILLARY LAWS AND DIRECTIVES
This section (Act Aug. 10, 1956, ch 1041, § 1, 70A Stat. 89; Sept. 2, 1958, P.L. 85-861, § 1(27), 72 Stat. 1450) was repealed by Act Oct. 5, 1994, P.L. 103-337, Div A, Title XVI, Subtitle C, § 1662(i)(2), 108 Stat. 2998 (effective Dec. 1, 1994, as provided by § 1691 of such Act, which appears as 10 USCS § 10001 note). This section provided for discharge of reserves. For similar provisions, see 10 USCS § 12681.
Courtesy of Lexis.
I see. I could only find it by putting in the date of it's repeal. Twisted!
1978 is what Kerry's web site shows. Is it just coincidence that Jimmy Carter took office in 1977 and pardoned all draft dodgers that year?
The 'boilerplate' standard form verbiage is typeset (justified). Individual details (date, name, etc.) were added with a typewriter.
Common practice. Nothing suspicious about that...
1978...The Carter years when amnesty was bestowed...I think there is something in the records to show that he had a dishonorable discharge, but it was changed or altered at THAT time..
It appears to be a standard typeset form with Kerry's name and discharge date about the only things typed (and hard to read.)
You are right, Kerry could have posted a "Fake" discharge document on his Web site.
I would attack this angle rather than the March 2001 doc which we can't get our hands on.
A thinking American would NOT vote for John F. Kerry until he has released ALL of his military documents, only a fool would!!!
Remember all these records were/are in kerry's FBI files....could be where the leak is/has come from.
1) Kerry's OCS agreement does not "obligate" him to 48 drills. It suggests that as one of two possible activities, and even mentions a third which is "such duty as the Navy requires."
2) After 1971 Kerry's records were transferred to Naval Manpower Reserve in Bainbridge and where they (apparently ) were held for the remaining 2 years of his Active reserve status. NMR's responsibility was to match a reservist with a command. If in the post-VN drawdown there was no such match, then Kerry would have remained "in limbo" with NMR. And in fact he did send NMR a status update in the fall of 1971.
3) Active Reservists are not subject to UCMJ except while in the actual performance of their reserve duties.
4) I have repeatedly asked FR members about this "2001 discharge" and have received no answers. There is a 1978 Honorable Discharge document out there, but I have yet to see anything dated 2001.
Not trying to bash the author here, these are all reasonable questions. But the research I've done indicates that several are really non-issues.
Nor do any of the facts relieve Kerry the fundamental immorality and disloyalty of visiting Paris while a Naval officer or dissing the millions of honorable men who served with him in VN.
Personally, it makes me sick that I wore a U.S. Navy uniform at the same time this traitor was a Reserve Naval Officer.
Would the Navy really have given a medal "winner" like Kerry a less-than-honorable discharge? Say what you will, the services are concerned about appearances, and Kerry appeared to be a hero (at least regarding the award of his medals). Would the Navy have done that?
This is not true. On his website, Kerry has his honorable discharge, dated February of 1978.
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