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The CIA 'old guard' goes to war with Bush
Telegraph ^
| 10-10-04
| Phillip Sherwell
Posted on 10/09/2004 11:40:34 PM PDT by hippy hate me
Edited on 10/09/2004 11:48:58 PM PDT by Admin Moderator.
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To: hippy hate me
That's a house that's long overdue a good cleaning. I think it's time to clear out some of the dead wood that's been rotting back there.
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posted on
10/09/2004 11:42:43 PM PDT
by
Steel Wolf
(Got wood?)
To: hippy hate me
A search on "guard" would reveal this previously posted.
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posted on
10/09/2004 11:42:58 PM PDT
by
Hank Rearden
(Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
To: hippy hate me
This has been fairly to anybody who's paying attention.
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posted on
10/09/2004 11:45:19 PM PDT
by
sam_whiskey
(Peace through Strength)
To: hippy hate me
I wouldn't give two cents for anything the F-ing CIA says about anything. They are a bunch of lazy SOB's who fxxxed up the pre 9-11 intelligence,,,,fxxxed up the WMD intelligence......and you get the rest of the picture. These guys are a bunch of blowhards and losers.
To: hippy hate me
Amazing how the article omits that the CIA has a duty to serve the President. Its function within the executive branch is not to sabotage a sitting President. I hope many bureaucratic heads roll after Bush wins in November.
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posted on
10/09/2004 11:48:46 PM PDT
by
peyton randolph
(That smell isn't roadkill...it is the typical cheese-eating surrender monkey)
To: Hank Rearden
Missed it on the "CIA" search. I'll have to be more thorough next time.
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posted on
10/09/2004 11:50:03 PM PDT
by
hippy hate me
("You don't send troops to war without the body armor that they need" - John Kerry, Pres. Debate)
To: hippy hate me
Yeah, I tried searching "CIA" too ('cause I remember the other post), but FR doesn't search on 3 letters or less.
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posted on
10/09/2004 11:51:07 PM PDT
by
Hank Rearden
(Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
To: Steel Wolf
>>>That's a house that's long overdue a good cleaning. I think it's time to clear out some of the dead wood that's been rotting back there.
Dittos for the State Department. It needs a good flush.
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posted on
10/09/2004 11:52:10 PM PDT
by
Keith in Iowa
(At CBS - "We don't just report news - we make it - up.")
To: prometheus
Stansfield Turner (Carter's old Roomate) wrecked the CIA during the Carter years and loaded the adminstration with RATS coasting on government jobs and collecting goverment benifits. Time to clean house.
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posted on
10/09/2004 11:53:22 PM PDT
by
txroadkill
(NEWS--it's not credible unless the author wrote it in pajamas)
To: hippy hate me
I think that article is a lot of hype. There may be problems between some Bush people & the agency or former agency folks - but by and large people working for the CIA are extremely patriotic, and extremely RIGHT WING. They don't want to see Kerry elected, and serve to gain nothing by undermining Bush in such an overt way. Anybody doing that would be rogue in my estimation, not part of a large group.
To call them all idiots is just flat wrong - I spent some time dealing w/ the agency - and they were some of the smartest people I ever met. The organization itself has all kinds of bureaucratic problems - but you just can't blame everyone working there for the fact that the agency itself may be in bad need of an overhaul.
To: hippy hate me
It is time for a house cleaning at the CIA.
Enough is enough.
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posted on
10/09/2004 11:56:57 PM PDT
by
DB
(©)
To: Steel Wolf
New eras require new thinking. The question about these guys is why they didn't tell us the era had changed. In with the new, out with the old. That's the American way!
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posted on
10/09/2004 11:57:23 PM PDT
by
risk
To: hippy hate me
"..Bill Harlow, the former CIA spokesman who left with the former director George Tenet in July, acknowledged that there had been leaks from within the agency. "The intelligence community has been made the scapegoat for all the failings over Iraq," he said. "It deserves some of the blame, but not all of it. People are chafing at that, and that's the background to these leaks...."
The leaker should be fired. It seems they alway exist no matter who is in power.
To: hippy hate me
All the Clinton era puppets just have to go. When Clinton politicized the CIA it was the worst thing he could ever have done. It fell apart, to the point that there wasn't even ONE Arab speaking agent. They FAILED in many ways BEFORE Bush even became president. Clarke was one of those disasters. How many more Clarkes are there?
To: txroadkill
Yes,,,Turner, along with Senator Church,,,,,,did a hit job on the CIA....before then they did some good work, especially in the 1950's, but the Carter presidency wreaked the agency, drove the good people out, and put in the bunch of bumblers and F-ups we have today. If you remember the CIA didn't even call the Iranian revolution right. It is a wonder we won the Cold War with this bunch.
To: sam_whiskey
fairly obvious-I meant to say
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posted on
10/10/2004 12:11:29 AM PDT
by
sam_whiskey
(Peace through Strength)
To: sourdoughAK
Considering the sources here are from retired agents, I was swayed to share the same gut feeling on the article as yourself. Despite some problems, an all out Bush attack through a re-election bid would be career suicide for the agency, I would think. Considering, if I'm not mistaken, Kerry wants to create a completely new domestic spy agency.
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posted on
10/10/2004 12:11:58 AM PDT
by
hippy hate me
("You don't send troops to war without the body armor that they need" - John Kerry, Pres. Debate)
To: hippy hate me
No amount of revisionist history will change the fact that fewer Coalition troops have died in the War on Terror than Americans died in the WTC on 9-11. Tens of thousands of allied deaths were projected, prior to the invasion of Iraq, by talking heads in the MSM. Based on written transcripts and video of President Bush's speeches and statements, it appears that President Bush is one of the very few who did NOT lie.
To: hippy hate me
In other countries when one party or faction takes over from another there is a "purge". In our system we replace the guys on top and leave the bureaucracy in place regardless of whether it's effective or not. And this is not just the CIA. We can look at Defense,State and every other major outfit in Washington. All the Marxists hired from Harvard and Princeton and other so called institutions of lower learning remain in place to sabotage policy. It's time to demand a general cleanup.
FREEPER (PARodrig) PAUL RODRIGUEZ FOR CONGRESS
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posted on
10/10/2004 12:16:12 AM PDT
by
Cacique
(quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat)
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