[LexBaird]

Physical or deadly force is just one kind, or would you disagree with the statement that the burglar, in your dwelling against your will, has forced his presence there upon you?

I'm not arguing the principle. I'm saying that the law, as it exists, isn't written to libertarian principles. If I shoot a unarmed burglar in my bedroom, I may feel morally justified, but John Law is gonna put me in jail.

[Trailerpark Badass]

I'm not arguing the principle.

Well, I am. Wild Turkey said that burglary doesn't involve force, with respect to the libertarian notion of laws against force or fraud. I said it does. Obviously, it doesn't not involve physical force, but saying it doesn't involve force of any kind is, well, stupid.