[kckckc]

They are are not like that where I come from. Before I joined Theta Chi I had almost flunked out of college. After I joined OX I was on the dean's list every semester until I graduated. I then went on to graduate school and own a VERY successful business. Hazing is sad but I would have said to such stupidity!

[radicalamericannationalist]

Our chapter had the 3rd highest GPA until we got the mechanical engineers in our midst. C's were like A's to those guys.

That said, those of us who were not foolish enough to go into majors with right and wrong answers were benefited immensely by the experience. Odds were at least one or two others were in your class, so you always had someone who could study with you.

[Twinkie]

I'm sure there are many which do worthwhile things, and the ones that do are long term assets to the country.