India's tickets to US sold out (H1-B visas)

atimes.com/atimes/ ^ | Oct 8, 2004 | Siddharth Srivastava

[KarlInOhio]

A full year's quota of 65,000 H1-B visas, slashed from the earlier cap of 195,000 due to protests by American workers in an election year,

How about "the earlier cap of 195,000 had been temporarily raised from 65,000 during the dot com boom"?

[angkor]

I'm no lawyer, but this seems to violate both the spirit and letter of H1-B regs.

[proxy_user]

What do you mean? The hoarding of visas by large Indian corporations, or something else?

[angkor]

Whoops. This:

Wipro Technologies, for instance, already has 1,000 visa-ready professionals based in India waiting for their onsite assignments

[TXBSAFH]

They passed out to many of these visas.

[angkor]

And this as well:

The restriction will curtail the flexibility to reinforce onsite teams at various stages in the software development lifecycle (system requirement study, testing and implementation phases)

I guess it doesn't occur to them to hire American "onsite teams".

[Vortex]

Reacting to the early filling of the quota, India's National Association of Software and Service Companies - or NASSCOM, India's top association for software firms - has said start-up software firms will be affected in a major way due to the filling up of the annual limit for the controversial guest worker program through the H1-B visas.

LMAO

[Publius Valerius]

How about "the earlier cap of 195,000 had been temporarily raised from 65,000 during the dot com boom"?

How about previous to 1990, there was no cap?

[cinives]

Iyengar warned that the reduced cap would simply result in the flight of more jobs from the US.

Gosh, I know at least 9 software engineers with up-to-date skills that can't find jobs in IT. Unfortunately they are all at least 40 years old. Think these companies will give them a chance ? Think these companies pay more than $15 an hour ?

[glorgau]

However, he warned that there is an acute shortage of tech workers in several new high-tech areas, as evident in job notices on sites such as monster.com.

There is a shortage at the price they want to pay. The problem is that the demand is all here and the cheap supply is coming from overseas.

[ghitma]

The truth is that these Indian software programmers are not that good. I have spent many hours fixing their work. What they have is a "template" which they try to fit to all
requirements. Sometimes it works sometimes most of the times it doesn't. Also their database work is elementary. When I see embedded, hard coded SQL throughout an entire application I know that this is amateur hour. What these companies that hire the Indians don't understand is that the fix will cost more than the development.

[tm22721]

They can't work in defense, or defense subcontracts thank God.

BUMP

[Johnny Crab]

The TOTAL COST of repairing outsourced work(code, industrial plant design, fumbled VOIP'd call centers, etc.) is NEVER accounted for in the "closing" of a project. If a sharp bean counter ever calculates a TOTAL project cost over time maybe(not holding my breath) things might start to change. I'd love for "upper management" to use this equation:

[($$ "saved" by outsourcing work)] - [("millions per day" in lost production) x (days lost due to correcting errors in outsourced work) + (cost of U.S. engineers fixing the errors)] = ACTUAL savings(or loss)

I do enjoy the "reverse outsourcing" by Nissan with their plant in Mississippi....

[gubamyster]

ping

[Regulator]

Unfortunately they are all at least 40 years old

And probably the wrong ethnicity as well. Here in the Silicon Slum it's well known that blatant discrimination against Americans takes place at such hallowed companies as Intel and AMD. Once you get an Indian or Asian or whatever (as long as they aren't the hated Caucasians) in a hiring spot, forget it. It's all over. He's going to hire his buddies.

But never call it discrimination.

[MegaSilver]

How about "the earlier cap of 195,000 had been temporarily raised from 65,000 during the dot com boom"?

How about dropping the H1-B and the wonderful "Diversity Lottery" altogether?

[MegaSilver]

You know, whites have been regularly discriminated against by Western governments for several decades now. I can't imagine them standing for it much longer, and the consequences may well be a banding together with white supremacist groups; who knows, in a few years, whites may conclude that that's the only way they can survive and/or retain some of their property.

Western elites have imposed dangerous experiments upon their peoples. The price to pay may be higher than we can bear.

[trentk]

An excellent book on this subject is Michael Savage's "The Enemy Within".

Both parties are out to lunch on the immigration issue; Iraq and Islamofascism's war against the West dominate the current political debate.

[Centurion2000]

Once you get an Indian or Asian or whatever (as long as they aren't the hated Caucasians) in a hiring spot, forget it. It's all over. He's going to hire his buddies.

But never call it discrimination.

It happened at Capital One as well.