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Lawmakers, GOP Clash on 9/11 Legislation
Associated Press ^ | 7OCT04 | JESSE J. HOLLAND

Posted on 10/07/2004 5:34:37 PM PDT by familyop

WASHINGTON (AP) - House GOP leaders braced Thursday for a late-session showdown with the Senate over conflicting versions of legislation written in response to the terror-fighting recommendations of the Sept. 11 commission.

Republicans leaders say the House version, which includes creation of a national intelligence director as well as anti-terrorism, illegal immigration, border-security and identity-theft powers, is the best bill and should be the one that prevails.

"It's real simple. The House bill - every single word of it - will make the American people safer," House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas, proclaimed as Congress neared the time for lawmakers to leave for the campaign hustings.

An earlier version of the Senate-passed bill - which was to be offered Thursday by Rep. Robert Menendez, D-N.J. and has been pushed by Reps. Christopher Shays, R-Conn., and Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y. - was being presented as a replacement for the House GOP bill.

Shays and Maloney says their proposal - which is identical to the Menendez amendment - was held back to that GOP leaders could depict the Senate version as being a purely Democratic on the House floor.

"I know my leadership thinks it's not going to pass or they wouldn't have allowed the vote," Shays said. "That shows their level of confidence. I hope we prove them wrong."

Minority Democrats contend the law enforcement and immigration provisions that were included the GOP leadership bill were put there to force Democrats into a difficult, election-year vote that could have political consequences.

"Adding controverisal unrelated provisions to the law makes it harder to get a conference report and a bill to the president's desk," Maloney said Thursday.

The House plans to have something finished before the end of the week, and that bill would have to be reconciled with the one that overwhelmingly passed the Senate on Wednesday.

On a 96-2 vote, senators also approved the creation of a national intelligence director who would coordinate most of the nation's nonmilitary intelligence agencies and a national counterterrorism center to help fight terrorist plots.

"Those two provisions are the key recommendations of the 9/11 commission," said GOP Sen. Susan Collins of Maine, who shepherded the bill with Sen. Joseph Lieberman, D-Conn. "We want to make sure that the new national intelligence director is able to marshal the funds, the people and the resources to counter the threat of terrorism and other emerging threats."

President Bush applauded the vote in a statement and called on the House to follow suit quickly with its own legislation. He didn't endorse one version over the other.

"This legislation is another important step forward as we do everything in our power to defeat the terrorist enemy and protect the American people," Bush said of the Senate bill.

Unlike in the House, the Collins-Lieberman bill faced little opposition from either side in the Senate although many supporters of the Pentagon and the intelligence community wanted it changed to preserve power for their committees or those agencies.

"Some of our colleagues who started out most skeptical or opposed to what we were doing ended up supporting the proposal because they believed it was right," Lieberman said. "I look forward to the House Senate conference with the same kind of optimism. The fact is that there's an urgency to do something."

The 9/11 commission contended that the 15 military and civilian intelligence agencies' failure to cooperate precluded an effective defense that might have prevented the 2001 terror attacks on New York City and Washington. The panel recommended creating a position of national intelligence director to control and coordinate all the agencies.

In addition, the commission called for more safeguards at home, such as setting national standards for issuance of drivers' licenses and other identification, improving "no-fly" and other terrorist watch lists and using more biometric identifiers to screen travelers at ports and borders.

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The Senate bill is S. 2845. The House bill is H.R. 10.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911commissionreport; homelandsecurity; hr10; recommendations; s2845
Earlier reports from Democrat-leaning news sites said that President Bush was opposing the Bill. Those reports were obviously untrue.
1 posted on 10/07/2004 5:34:37 PM PDT by familyop
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Kerry Democrats have recently been intensifying their efforts to divide conservatives on conservative discussion boards.

Here's the President's answer to the same accusation from Kerry during the First Debate:

"We got a thousand extra Border Patrol on the Southern border, more than a thousand on the Northern border. We're modernizing our borders."

Expect Democrat sleepers to intensify their anti-immigration pretense during the coming weeks as the President adds to our border security efforts. Pro-Democrat publications will be dissemination the lie more often each day.

2 posted on 10/07/2004 5:41:54 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: familyop
Lawmakers, GOP Clash on 9/11 Legislation

AP really outdid itself with this headline . . . I guess in the AP mindset Republican congressmen and senators are not actually "lawmakers".

3 posted on 10/07/2004 5:42:32 PM PDT by Charlemagne on the Fox
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To: familyop
On Wednesday, October 5th, the Senate passed S. 2845 by a vote of 96-2. S. 2845 is the Collins-Lieberman National Intelligence Reform Act of 2004.

There is a GLARING OMISSION in S. 2845: IT CONTAINS NO IMMIGRATION PROVISIONS despite the fact that The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States (9-11 Commission) made several recommendations with regard to immigration that, in the Commission's opinion, would increase security and help prevent a future attack.

Alternatively, the House GOP Leadership has led the effort to draft H.R. 10, the primary legislative response to the recommendations of The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States (9-11 Commission).

H.R. 10, which represents the primary legislative response to the recommendations of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States (9-11 Commission), contains many of the immigration-related recommendations of the 9-11 Commission.

According to www.numbersusa.com, the Bush administration was pushing for S.2845, the legislation with the immigration-related provisions DELETED. They have not supported H.R. 10, the house bill that INCLUDES the immigration-related provisions.

4 posted on 10/07/2004 6:11:36 PM PDT by janetgreen
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Exactly which immigration provisions in the House version were recommended by the 9/11 Commission?


5 posted on 10/07/2004 6:16:25 PM PDT by bayourod (Even security moms should now know that you can't lead while waffling and calling Iraq the wrong war)
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To: Charlemagne on the Fox

That's a good point. The AP, for the most part, has been antagonistic.


6 posted on 10/07/2004 6:27:49 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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The main reasons they are "clashing" are listed here:

"House About to Strip More Civil Liberties in Name of Anti-terrorism"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1238196/posts


7 posted on 10/07/2004 6:44:58 PM PDT by MagnusMaximus1 (Molon Labe!)
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To: familyop
The Democrats have just joined effort to divide the Republicans that was started by the Buchanan/Tancredo anti-Bush crowd. The provisions of the instant bill in question have nothing to do with terrorism and were not recommended by the 9/11 Commission.
8 posted on 10/07/2004 6:45:51 PM PDT by bayourod (Even security moms should now know that you can't lead while waffling and calling Iraq the wrong war)
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To: janetgreen

It appears to me that Roy Beck and numbersusa.com are way to the radical left. I believe President Bush and don't trust Roy Beck.


9 posted on 10/07/2004 6:54:15 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: bayourod

Tancredo's not anti-Bush, is he? Unlike Buchanan, he's in favor of defense. But he is against illegal immigration. Is Tancredo against legal immigration?

http://www.issues2000.org/House/Tom_Tancredo.htm


10 posted on 10/07/2004 7:12:50 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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Tancredo is Pat Buchanan'S puppet. His TeamAmerica PAC is chaired by Pat Buchanan's sister. His Webmaster is Buchanan's webmaster, and their goal is to divide the Republican Party using the immigration issues.
11 posted on 10/07/2004 7:27:03 PM PDT by bayourod (Even security moms should now know that you can't lead while waffling and calling Iraq the wrong war)
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I'm not promoting Tancredo for the presidency, yet, BTW, but am only curious.

And yes, I've seen the Buchananite/Democrat bashing against Hebrews and Republicans. That gets really outrageous.

...also copied a thread from one of the more infamous neo-Nazi sites where at least one member discussed as to how they would use the same identity and "neo-con" issues to infiltrate this site.

I won't name the site here, because they don't deserve the recognition. But the title of that thread was "How do we penetrate Free Republic?" (for any who would like to do a search for serious study of the creeps).

It is likely that the Nazis are beginning to realize that their only hope for continued publicity is to join the left. Democrats recently perpetrated quite a few vandalisms involving burning Bush/Cheney campaign signs, putting swastikas on Republican campaign signs and the like.


12 posted on 10/07/2004 7:30:05 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: bayourod

Thanks for the info.


13 posted on 10/07/2004 7:30:41 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: bayourod

Ah. If you google that quote to find the thread I mentioned, look for the other versions of the word in the thread (at least four pages long)--"neocon," "neo-conservatism" and all of that. ...especially "neo-conservatism" and the links posted with it. ...and "religion."


14 posted on 10/07/2004 7:39:50 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: bayourod

Look it up. You asked me not to post to you anymore.


15 posted on 10/07/2004 10:17:08 PM PDT by janetgreen
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