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I stated on another thread that the UN is salvageable, but not under its current staff. It would take a comprehensive audit by an independent agency to even begin to right this sinking ship, to be repeated yearly and published to the world.

And it won't happen. The reason it won't happen is the reason the UN is doomed - it has become the playground for every two-bit bureaucrat and tinpot despot in the world, a means for them to validate one another and act out a legitimacy they have not earned. Duty there for this ruling class is no more than an extension of their progress in theft within their own countries. No more perfect example of this is the sitting Human Rights Commission, chaired by Libya and populated by such avatars of human dignity as Cuba, Zimbabwe, and Sudan.

The problem here is obvious: it is that in an effort to promote egalitarianism the foreign minister of Zimbabwe is accorded the same respect that is given the foreign minister of Australia, despite the (ahem) difference in moral character between the two men and their respective governments. There is no judgment in that august body between good men and evil, oppressors and liberators. That is not to say there is no moral approval or disapproval for actions dealt with therein, but the only criterion used is whether, or on which side, the United States is involved. The other side is the moral one.

I shall not give up on the idea of the UN, because I think that something like it is needed, but in its current form and under its current miasma of corruption I cannot find a single reason to defend it.

Good thoughts Bill.

I shall not give up on the idea of the UN, because I think that something like it is needed, but in its current form and under its current miasma of corruption I cannot find a single reason to defend it.

Well said.

If something like the UN is ever tried again, membership should be earned and invitational. It's not enough to simply "declare independence" from a colonial master. One must also establish a society predicated on individual freedom and the right to own property.

"IMHO the reason why the Left or Tranzis have made an issue of Halliburton may have been to try to draw a parrell with the UN scam, SHOULD THE SCADAL BE FOUND OUT

THIS MUST NOT STAND.

I have also felt that the hatred for Israel is because she will allways be a nation-state (ANATHEMA) and is Judaic. Amtisemetism is a good tool for Elites in realizing their Transnational Progressivism. Perhaps antisemitism has been used to advance their goals in abolishing the Nation-State and advance the Tanzis agenda.

"If the new hatred of George Bush is the natural expression of an elite that blurs truth and fiction, word and deed, then anger at a powerful America itself also is explicable in terms of the postmodernist paradigm. Because to the intellectual architects of the modern Left, the overdog automatically forfeits morality, the United States is in a particularly unenviable position as the world’s hyperpower. No absolute standards or recent history are necessary to place the mistreatment of prisoners in a proper context—not when televised pictures flooding our screens from Abu Graib show beefy, white uniformed Americans and poor, thin naked Iraqis. American misdemeanors of sexual humiliation and degradation by rogue soldiers and negligent officers are no different, as Senator Kennedy pointed out, from Saddam’s systematic efforts to institutionalize mass murder."

-vdh

Exactly - excellent post!

".......I think that something like it is needed......"

I agree.

(1) Starting over and maybe (2) made up only of representatives of governments that are freely elected by their people (?).

The only problem with this is that someone like Saddam had an election and won 99.999996% of the vote (by coersion and illegal means, of course).

Good thoughts though.

I stated on another thread that the UN is salvageable, but not under its current staff. It would take a comprehensive audit by an independent agency to even begin to right this sinking ship, to be repeated yearly and published to the world.

Said "independent agency" would itself be subject to the same corrupting forces that have taken the UN under sway. It's a sturctural problem: ultimate authority is inherently subject to corruption. The checks and balances of numerous poly-polar governments, each subject to the consent of the people, are the only antidote.

That precondition has yet to be satisfied. Going in the direction of a global authority of any kind is fraught with peril.

I stated on another thread that the UN is salvageable...

Why would anyone even want to salvage it?

How long does Anan get to keep his job?