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Bush wins, according to econ models
CBS.MarketWatch.com ^ | 12:10 PM ET Oct. 6, 2004 | Emily Church

Posted on 10/06/2004 9:30:13 PM PDT by Herakles

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Don't think this was posted earlier today - of interest. Remember to vote.
1 posted on 10/06/2004 9:30:13 PM PDT by Herakles
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To: Herakles

Those same models predicted Gore would win easily in 2000.


2 posted on 10/06/2004 9:31:24 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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To: Herakles

NO COMPLACENCY!


3 posted on 10/06/2004 9:31:41 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL on issues of national security for two decades)
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To: Paleo Conservative

I hope these models are accurate.

If Bush/Cheney blows it, I don't know what I'm going to do.

Head for the hills, I guess. Kerry's going to sell out the country to the UN and let it get bombed by terrorists so that he can implement nationalized health care and turn us into a communist car wreck like Canada.


4 posted on 10/06/2004 9:33:05 PM PDT by johannes89a
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To: Herakles

More traditional projections based on voter preference polls show a much closer electoral college vote. A CNN poll survey on Sept. 28 showed 301 electoral votes for Bush.

A second econometrics model -- the President Vote Equation designed by Yale University professor Ray Fair -- has consistently shown a Bush win. In July, the equation predicted a 57.48 percent vote for Bush.


5 posted on 10/06/2004 9:33:43 PM PDT by MattMa (I'm not a victim, I am a conservative and if you get to close, I just may bite.)
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To: Herakles

This is not technically economics---it is econometrics.

It can be VERY accurate.

The career accuracy of one econometric model is +/-2.5%, and this summer it stated the President would win with 57%.


6 posted on 10/06/2004 9:35:06 PM PDT by Petronski (Report back to headquarters for debriefing . . . . and cocktails.)
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To: MattMa

GMTA


7 posted on 10/06/2004 9:35:24 PM PDT by Petronski (Report back to headquarters for debriefing . . . . and cocktails.)
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To: Herakles
I'd love someone to really research all of these polls, from maybe the 80's to 2002 (the more or less SuperMedia era) and show us the most accurate predictive polls--I mean everything from the Halloween mask poll to Zogby.

That would satisfy my poll freak. But to be honest, I simply don't see anything that convinces me Kerry will win. And I'm no optimist.

8 posted on 10/06/2004 9:36:07 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: johannes89a

Sometimes it isn't a matter of "blowing it", but events that no one can predict...and the reaction of the voters to the events...


9 posted on 10/06/2004 9:39:30 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL on issues of national security for two decades)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Well, unless there is (God forbid!) a mobilizing event like another 9/11, I do not see 373 EV for Bush with Kerry in 10-12 states only. RAT operation looks more serious than that, and not likely to self-destruct and implode. (Why can't we have Howard Dean?? It would be so much more fun to watch). I think GWB will win, but with smaller margin, within 50 EV, not 200 EV.


10 posted on 10/06/2004 9:40:00 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: Paleo Conservative

The final Fair model in 2000 predicted Gore would win the popular vote with 50.8% of the two-part vote. He won it with I believe 50.2%.

That said, I simply cannot see, the electorate being as it is, Bush winning 57.5% of the popular vote, or even the lower end of the 2% standard error. We shall see.


11 posted on 10/06/2004 9:41:53 PM PDT by DallasJ7
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To: Herakles

That's ridiculous. Bush won't get more than 350 unless he carries all of the swing states.


12 posted on 10/06/2004 9:42:06 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: DallasJ7
The final Fair model in 2000 predicted Gore would win the popular vote with 50.8% of the two-part vote. He won it with I believe 50.2%.

No he got less than 50% (48.38%) of the popular vote.

13 posted on 10/06/2004 9:44:02 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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To: Herakles

Perhaps its time to go to tradesports.com and buy Bush +350. At 12.5, it looks pretty tasty.


14 posted on 10/06/2004 9:44:20 PM PDT by lafroste (gravity is not a force, dangit)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Err sorry, I kinda worded that wrong. I was referring to the two-party vote (excluding Nader, etc), which is what the Fair model predicts.


15 posted on 10/06/2004 9:45:41 PM PDT by DallasJ7
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To: Paleo Conservative

Isn't there a false assumption here that a too large number of people correctly perceive what's happening with the economy? It seems that Bush I proved that they don't.


16 posted on 10/06/2004 9:49:08 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: johannes89a
Head for the hills, I guess. Kerry's going to sell out the country to the UN ...

blue helmets make nice targets. Fear not the UN, when have they been successful??

17 posted on 10/06/2004 9:57:56 PM PDT by madison46 (Give IRAN nuke fuel?? Your nutz)
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To: AmericanVictory

I think perception of the economy lags actual economic performance by at least a year.


18 posted on 10/06/2004 10:02:16 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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To: DallasJ7
(excluding Nader, etc), which is what the Fair model predicts.

I think Nader would call that the unFair model

19 posted on 10/06/2004 10:03:16 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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To: GSlob

In Iowa, Dims are out-registering Pubbies with new voters 10-1.


20 posted on 10/06/2004 10:03:53 PM PDT by karnage
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