A Seismic Shift in our National Safety

Washington Dispatch.com ^ | October 6, 2004 | Commentary by Donald A. Collins

[Conservative Firster]

Within the past few days, the potential for a seismic breakthrough against terrorism has been approved by the House Judiciary Committee, sponsored by Dennis Hastert, House Speaker, who has just introduced a bill, HR 10, which embodies most of the recommendations of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States (9-11 Commission) as contained in its recently released report.

In short, in the climate in which we all want greater safety from terrorism, guess what? It has just been learned that the Bush Administration is pressuring the GOP Leadership, the main authors of H.R. 10, to strip the immigration provisions from H.R. 10. Can this be believed after all Bush’s talk about concern for our safety that the plain vanilla straight forward obvious steps proposed by HR 10 are not ones Bush wants to be passed?

[Aquakat]

I believe the president's proposed policies to enable legal work status on condition of payroll job status

I have no problem with legal emigration what so ever. In fact what you said above is current emigration policy. The only caveat is that these people must have a sponsor and a job so as to insure that they don’t end up on the welfare system and each country has a quota not to be exceeded.

The issue is illegal emigration and GWB’s push for amnesty.

[bayourod]

"And why is this bad?. "

The White House wants to pass a bill before the election enacting recommendations of the 9/11 Commission. Some Congressmen managed to add these anti-Mexican provisions to the bill. The Senate will not agree to them.

Unless they are removed the bill will not become law. This is an example of a few Congressmen trying to hold American security and the President's reelection hostage to their racists demagoguery.

[Aquakat]

The White House wants to pass a bill before the election enacting recommendations of the 9/11 Commission. Some Congressmen managed to add these anti-Mexican provisions to the bill. The Senate will not agree to them.

Unless they are removed the bill will not become law. This is an example of a few Congressmen trying to hold American security and the President's reelection hostage to their racists demagoguery.

First, of all riders to bills are how things get done in congress.

Second, I am not completely convinced that the incompetent 911 commission’s recommendations are the answer.

Third, just because it is a rider doesn’t necessarily make any provision bad.

Forth, you say these provisions are anti Mexican and are put forth by racists. I ask you what is so anti Mexican to ask that all people coming here follow the laws. You will most likely say that its only emigration laws but then where would you draw the line as to which laws you want to follow or not.

Fifth, once again most Americans of Mexican decent are in favor of stopping illegal emigration.

Sixth, since I am in full support of stopping illegal emigration and am in support of the provisions with some trepidation with #4&5 am I a racist in your eyes?

[usadave]

I made a needed correction to your statement:

The White House wants to pass a bill before the election enacting recommendations of the 9/11 Commission. Some Congressmen managed to add these anti-Mexican illegal alien lawbreaker provisions to the bill.

[usadave]

Sixth, since I am in full support of stopping illegal emigration and am in support of the provisions with some trepidation with #4&5 am I a racist in your eyes?

In bayourod's eyes, anybody who opposes illegal immigration is a racist.

[Aquakat]

if you don't already know, you should know that the column is a Democrat division piece against our Campaign effort.

Just about 24hr ago you asserted that this column is a Democrat division piece.. I asked you for an explanation and a possible link to support your contention.

Since you have been active on other threads and you havent responded, I can only assume that your statement has no basis in fact

I naively thought that since we, more or less, we are on the same side at this site there would be no BS with each other. I also thought there would be no need for disingenuous statements to support ones beliefs with each other here. I truly am disappointed.

You don’t owe me anything, however, I wonder if you would extend me the courtesy of a cogent explanation as to why your actions are any different than Michel Moor or seeBS.

If I am wrong I apologize in advance.

[Aquakat]

Hastert's office issued a press release this afternoon that said this is totally false. The Bush administration is doing no such thing.

Just about 24hr ago you asserted that Hastert’s office issued a press release. After due diligence I count find any such release and asked you to back up said statement.

Since you have been active on other threads I can only assume that your statement has no basis in fact. I naively thought that since we, more or less, are on the same side there would be no BS with each other and there would be no need for disingenuous statements to support ones beliefs. I truly am disappointed.

You don’t owe me anything, however, I wonder if you would extend me the courtesy of a cogent explanation as to why your actions are any different than Michel Moor or seeBS . If

I am wrong I apologize in advance.

[Aquakat]

In bayourod's eyes, anybody who opposes illegal immigration is a racist.

LOL,

After reading your two posts to "bayou rod" I surmised that you had a history with him.

After looking at your post history I find that this issue was aggressively discuced two days ago and I missed it, oh well.

[sinkspur]

Look it up on Drudge, if you're still hot about this.

[familyop]

"I wonder if you would extend me the courtesy of a cogent explanation as to why your actions are any different than Michel Moor or seeBS."

I commented in favor of President Bush against your anti-Bush post, and you replied with that. Now we know where you're coming from.

Those of us who bothered to look are aware that the Administration verbally endorsed both bills, has preferences, why, and so on.

Don't bother trying to waste our time so near the Election.