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Gunning for Cheney
Tech Central Station ^ | 10/06/2004 | John R. Lott, Jr.

Posted on 10/06/2004 1:21:03 PM PDT by grassboots.org

During the Vice Presidential debate, Senator John Edwards asked how Vice President Dick Cheney could possibly oppose laws such as one preventing "plastic" guns that can avoid metal detectors. The bill in question was written and supported by the NRA and supported by gun control groups. Senator Edwards implied that only someone far outside the mainstream could vote "no," and Edwards obviously wanted to use this vote to question Cheney's seriousness in dealing with terrorism.

Dick Cheney was one of only a handful of congressmen who voted against the bill when it came up in 1986. Yet, it was bad law. The law provided placebo cures for imaginary ills.

The hysteria over "plastic guns" arose in the mid-1980s when the Austrian company Glock began exporting pistols to the United States. Labeled as "terrorist specials" by the press, fear spread that their plastic frame and grip would make them invisible to metal detectors. Rarely mentioned was that Glocks still had over a pound of metal. Anyone who has ever been through a metal detector at an airport should understand how silly this fear was.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; debate; guncontrol; johnlott; plasticguns; vpdebate
Ted Nugent also Says That Edwards Was Wrong - There Are No Plastic Guns (Sean Hannity)

Apparently, Edwards claimed VP Cheney voted to allow folks to own plastic guns (or did he mean toy guns)

1 posted on 10/06/2004 1:21:03 PM PDT by grassboots.org
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To: grassboots.org
There are too. The plastic guns are made of the same thread that Kerry's CIA magic hat is made of. Just a different application. Cheney is wrong --- /sarcasm
2 posted on 10/06/2004 1:22:52 PM PDT by snooker (French Fried Flip Flopper still Flouncing, be careful out there.)
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To: grassboots.org

"Senator John Edwards asked how Vice President Dick Cheney could possibly oppose laws such as one preventing "plastic" guns that can avoid metal detectors."

This is typical liberal-speak. The usual line "of course we all agree that ...." prefaces many remarks eminating from the libs. It was so typical of the underlying assumption that they are always correct in their positions


3 posted on 10/06/2004 1:28:12 PM PDT by eeggler1
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To: grassboots.org
This thread has just added to the FreeRepublic "bang list" (firearms interest list) by adding the keyword "banglist".

Any time a firearms-related thread is created on FreeRepublic, please be sure to add the "banglist" keyword to it so that interested FReepers don't miss it.

Let Freedom Ring,

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

4 posted on 10/06/2004 1:35:45 PM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: Joe Brower

Thank you, Mr. Brower


5 posted on 10/06/2004 1:41:24 PM PDT by grassboots.org (US Forces Armed With What? Spitballs?!!)
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To: grassboots.org
Senator John Edwards asked how Vice President Dick Cheney could possibly oppose laws such as one preventing "plastic" guns that can avoid metal detectors.

The same way that he could oppose laws to prevent space aliens from firing dematerializing/rematerializing quantum torpedos into the Earth's core.

There are no dematerializing/rematerializing quantum torpedos.

6 posted on 10/06/2004 1:43:45 PM PDT by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: grassboots.org
No problem.
7 posted on 10/06/2004 1:46:19 PM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: Joe Brower

Joe,

Did you see what happened to me last night? It's a firearm-related story that you might be interested in.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1236589/posts


8 posted on 10/06/2004 1:47:36 PM PDT by Jaysun (It's getting hard to see through all of the "white out" on my screen.)
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To: wyattearp

But are there dematerializing/rematerializing quantum cannons?


9 posted on 10/06/2004 1:53:05 PM PDT by grassboots.org (US Forces Armed With What? Spitballs?!!)
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Everyone knows the real 'invisible' to airport security gun is the Glock 7, which are made out of ceramics.

"That punk pulled a Glock 7 on me! You know what that is? It's a porcelain gun made in Germany. It doesn't show up on your airport X-ray machines, and it cost more than you make here in a month."- Bruce Willis, Die Hard 2

10 posted on 10/06/2004 2:07:32 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: TC Rider

Can we call this an Edwards "Glock N Spiel" moment


11 posted on 10/06/2004 2:11:04 PM PDT by grassboots.org (US Forces Armed With What? Spitballs?!!)
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To: grassboots.org
Can we call this an Edwards "Glock N Spiel" moment

How about, "It's no surprise that someone as lacking in maturity and experience as Edwards was taken in by an urban legend."

12 posted on 10/06/2004 2:17:03 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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Just in case everyone didn't get the joke: there is no "Glock 7". Those lines from "Die Hard 2" are pure Hollywood BS - useful only to the story line of the movie - and no doubt cost the folks at Glock many man-hours in answering inquiries from the public.
13 posted on 10/06/2004 2:34:25 PM PDT by macbee ("Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." - Napoleon Bonaparte)
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To: macbee
Just in case everyone didn't get the joke: there is no "Glock 7". Those lines from "Die Hard 2" are pure Hollywood BS - useful only to the story line of the movie - and no doubt cost the folks at Glock many man-hours in answering inquiries from the public.

OTH there are also claims that there is no such thing as a "german porcelain gun", but there is

14 posted on 10/06/2004 6:31:31 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans" - POTUS)
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To: Jaysun
Jaysun,

No, I hadn't seen that story. You did good. Got the drop on the intruder, had the situation in control from the get-go, and, as others pointed out, you maintained the proper degree of control to avoid a "bad shoot". Not an easy thing to do, and something that you never know how you'll do at until you actually experience it. Now you know.

I've drawn down people four times in my life, twice against hostile perps, and twice against people I knew who were doing silly things. One was my brother, who was breaking into the house we shared because he had forgotten his key. I had him dead to rights before I realized who it was, and the only thing he had to say was, quite casually, "Well, you got me before I got in the door"... !

15 posted on 10/06/2004 7:19:52 PM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: grassboots.org
But are there dematerializing/rematerializing quantum cannons?

shhhhh... we don't want them to know about those...

16 posted on 10/07/2004 1:28:59 PM PDT by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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