[samantha]

Remember that we are enlisting the aid of France in other ways,and also Russia. Cheney knew that the moderator made the point,and I believe he did not want overkill because even though we cannot stand these bastards we still need to use them and beating the hell out of them now would not be helpful to our overall cause.

[dirtboy]

Remember that we are enlisting the aid of France in other ways,and also Russia. Cheney knew that the moderator made the point,and I believe he did not want overkill because even though we cannot stand these bastards we still need to use them and beating the hell out of them now would not be helpful to our overall cause.

I think Cheney could have made his point without condemning France or Russia - he could have said that Kerry is promoting a plan that already is doomed to failure.