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unless your looking to get one of the SUN AMD servers with the insane cooling systems stay away from AMD for a server.. you think you have fire/thermal problems now

That's no longer an issue or it isn't an issue with the right setup. We researched a number of issues for a couple of weeks, especially the cooling issues but our concerns were laid to rest. The SuperKool technology keeps the 1u boxes cool - the 2,3 and 4u units stay about the same temperature.

Four years ago I had this setup at home. After too many warm days we moved to a real data center with redundant everything. Heat has always been an issue for us but we're no longer concerned with the AMDs.

some people dont have heat issues with them..

and some people use the hell outta their servers full blast 24/7 for weeks on end.

the 64s cool on their downtimes. they ramp up so fast that they start to get reallly nasty hot with the design idea that your not always at 100% so they get a chance to cool down before reaching crit temp but in alot of backend and frontend server systems that are goin full bore all the time, the cpu downtime is nonexistant and the xp/mp cannot survive a cooling failure, even the technical documents that AMD sends to its resellers say that if the chip is operated for even 1 second without proper heatsink AND fan the core is compromised.

we get alot of AMD XPs and MPs in for repair and have already started to get the first few 64s in for repair, all of them heat issues. One good thing tho, AMD has a killer warranty and will happily exchange them.

dont get me wrong. AMD makes a better workstation CPU than Intel for doing things such as autocad and photoshop, and the xp is nice for office and other daily user programs. you can buy a faster AMD for the same price as the Intel.

Ill stick to Intel for gaming and server applications.