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To: Tweaker

You're original point was too obtuse to answer.

The rule exactly exists because our "Founding Fathers" were NOT immigrants. They were landed gentry. Mulitgenerational rich guy lawyers, bankers and bon vivants. They thought negroes weren't whole people and that women weren't trusted to vote. We tossed those unsavory perceptions.

The elites wanted one of "their own" in the CEO position. They okayed a foreign born nationalized citizen for the job, as long as he was naturalized by 1787 and had been there 14 years. They liked their little club. They wore wigs and had crappy teeth too.

We don't live that way anymore. If a man or woman born in Canada, here since age two and is currently a 50 year old briliantly successful American naturallized citizen, what SHOULD make him or her less qualified to lead this country in a wise, patriotic way than some dismal lifelong slob who was born here by some quirk of fate and has done NOTHING with the American blessing?

Your original point was nonsense. There's no way to answer it. In what way is the brilliant, historically talented naturalized American citizen less qualified than you (or me) who may be native born morons?


35 posted on 10/05/2004 6:13:05 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: Barlowmaker
Your original post stated;

"All the snotdrippin' idiots I know are native born."

This gave me cause to believe you or someone you favor is a foreign born candidate of your choosing and your first step in getting them elected is to denigrate the home growns, or your are a Libertarian or an anarchist.

"This is an archaic rule that has no merit in a nation of immigrants."

This convinced me of it. The Constitution of the United States of America is not a living document and should not be subject to whimsical, knee-jerk reactionary changes

My original post was neither obtuse nor nonsense,but it was rhetorical.

What is nonsense is this "nation of immigrants" pablum that is spewed by every liberal who has a particular tradition, law, or common sense rule that they wish to abolish or some degenerate behavior they want to promote and preform.

Certainly this country was populated by "immigrants" but it was certainly not founded by them. The vast majority of American citizens who founded and fought to establish this country were born here, as most of our population today are born here.

Immigrants who then came to America seeking the freedom and opportunity denied them by their native countries quickly assimilated themselves into our culture, our customs, our socially acceptable behavior and our laws. They did not come to establish their own mini islands of their native country nor would it have been allowed. This is precisely why no foreign born person would ever be allowed to obtain the Presidency. Else Hitler, Mussolini, Hussein or their like could easily waltz in here and bestow their special gifts upon us.

As for Negroes and women you would do well to remember that as property, Negroes had value. It was in their owners best interest to see to their needs and treat them well, they couldn't produce if they were broken down and ill fed.
Most women who are honest will admit that women as a sex are far more concerned with being safe than defending themselves. They would instantly give up their liberties for the promise of security. This is why women were denied voting privileges, so they wouldn't vote, in mass, to feel secure rather than actually be secure.
No, I don't advocate enslaving human beings nor repealing the 19th amendment.

Canadians, by virtue of the fact that Canada is a socialist country, incapable of defending itself against more than a pack of wild dogs, have absolutely no business running this country. They have no concept anymore of freedom, if they ever did.

Lastly, let me remind you that the elites do not elect governments in the U.S. We the people elect them, we the people fire them, ours is a government of the people, by the people and for the people. In 1787, being a scant 11 years from our declaring independence from British rule and not yet fully established as a country, it seemed prudent to disallow any foreign born man from ruling this country, especially when you consider that George Washington was offered Kingship for life. He had the good sense quash that.

No person with loyalties, real or imagined, should be allowed to be the CIC of the most powerful country the world has ever known. And neither should they be allowed to execute an executive order, such as Marshall law.

I'm not sure what your problem with rich white guys are but it come across as sour grapes.

"The rule exactly exists because our "Founding Fathers" were NOT immigrants. They were landed gentry. Mulitgenerational rich guy lawyers, bankers and bon vivants...The elites wanted one of "their own" in the CEO position. They okayed a foreign born nationalized citizen for the job, as long as he was naturalized by 1787 and had been there 14 years. They liked their little club. They wore wigs and had crappy teeth too."

I suppose the Crips and Bloods who wear skullcaps and pants that sag below their buttocks can't really be considered an official club...
39 posted on 10/05/2004 8:35:07 PM PDT by Tweaker
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To: Barlowmaker
That's it. Ameirca is merely a club for the elite.
Damn Marxist rhetoric.
44 posted on 10/05/2004 11:39:19 PM PDT by rmlew (Copperheads and Peaceniks beware! Sedition is a crime.)
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To: Barlowmaker
They okayed a foreign born nationalized citizen for the job, as long as he was naturalized by 1787 and had been there 14 years.

The "Alexander Hamilton" clause.

54 posted on 10/06/2004 10:11:15 AM PDT by steve-b (I put sentences together suspiciously well for a righty blogger.)
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