[Capitalism2003]

I thought this was a great article. Send the link to everyone you know:

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/dp20041005.shtml

[PeterFinn]

I heard this live on the air and Sean (the caller) was dead-on serious when he said Kerry had a plan to surrender...er...withdraw.

We need to protest Kerry by asking the question:

What is the plan?

Stop telling me you have a plan, tell me what the plan is.

[Carry_Okie]

Sen. Kerry accomplished this so subtly that recognition of it had eluded me.

Had Mr. Prager hung out on FR, I would have happily explained it to him months ago.

[blanknoone]

Great article...really nailed it. Kerry won because he said whatever anyone wanted to hear...and the moderator did not nail him for his flip flops and inconsistancies (the President was barred from doing so by the rules).

[orangelobster]

I don't know why people keep saying Kerry "won" the debate. In terms of substance he lost badly. On a purely superficial level he was more effective. I'll admit that Kerry looked like he had better personal hygeine, but that's about it. His cosmetic and hair team beat Bush's cosmetic & hair team badly.

[johnny7]

In John Kerry's world, war is wrong... unless you are attacked by a sovereign nation, while allied with France and under a UN commander.

And always... always, have an exit strategy and/or a statement of capitulation on hand because either one or the other will be necessary.

[Revolting cat!]

Ketchup Boy has a plan to tell us what his plan is!

[Tweaker]

It took an idiot to explain to Dennis Prager that kerry is a liar for him to understand that kerry is a liar??

I guess we should hire Mr. Sean to fix that middle east thing straight away.

[counterpunch]

John Kerry won the debate because he sounded better; and he sounded better in large measure because he got away with saying whatever any voter wanted to hear.

That is one reason President Bush looked so annoyed at times. It is very hard for the principled to listen to the unprincipled.

No, John Kerry won because Bush let him get away with it unchallenged! This was Bush's chance to talk to Americans who don't attend his rallies. Instead he just mechanically repeat his favorite well worn Kerry flip-flop lines.

If Bush was so annoyed by it, then why didn't he say exactly what it was that annoyed him so much? This was his chance to open the eyes of tens of millions of people who so far have not been paying that close attention.

I was annoyed that Bush didn't defend his policies. Policies that I believe in. He owes it to the millions and millions of supporters like myself. That wasn't just President Bush under attack up there, it was me and my country, too.

[F.J. Mitchell]

It is a great article.

I don't believe it's one or the other (few principles or confusion) but that both define Kerry.

[slimer]

"Are Americans now dying in Iraq for a mistake?

John Kerry's answer: "No, and they don't have to, providing we have the leadership that I'm offering."

So under the leadership of President Bush they are dying for a mistake that Bush made. Under Kerry's leadership they would be dying for the mistake that Bush made. Therefore Kerry is not responsible for any Americans killed in Iraq.

This sets up his escape for every American soldier who is KIA in Iraq if he is elected to the presidency:

They were sent there by George Bush.
He made a collosal error in judgement by sending them there.
As president, I inherited this mess and I am in the process of making it right
Therefore, I cannot be held responible as president for American lives lost in Iraq.

This guy double talks better than Pat Paulson but Pat would have made a better president.

[Wolfstar]

Either John Kerry is a man of few principles who will say almost anything on the most vital issues of life and death in order to get elected; or he is personally so confused on this issue that he will repeatedly make self-contradictory statements.

Why does it have to be either/or? As far as I'm concerned, he's both a man of few principles and one who is confused.

[manic4organic]

Well, if Kerry has a plan, then I must be foragainst it.

[hosepipe]

Prager reached Alllll the way down through the BULL SPERM... Ewwwwe... and grabbed Kerrys nuts, brought them up, washed them off for all to see... and set them in this article displaying those hairy shrived specimens for posterity..
(must go wash my fingers) and keyboard

[Undecided]

Blah blah over-analyze blah. Kerry won because he stood up straight, smiled, spoke clearly and confidently even when total BS was coming out of his mouth. Bush slouched, smirked, spoke weakly and inarticulately.

The message coming out of their mouths was completely irrelavent to the outcome. A foriegn policy debate is all about who looks more presidential. Only when they get to domestic issues (what will the candidate do for me) does the undecided voter pay any attention to the words being said.

[danamco]

Here's the Dem's plea, personally from terry mcAwful:


An "online coup d'etat." That's how CBS News described your efforts after the debate last Thursday.

John Kerry did his part with a powerful performance that showed America they can expect strong and principled leadership when he is our commander-in-chief. But it was your efforts that kept the Republicans from spinning their way to victory.

Now we need your help again. Tonight, John Edwards and Dick Cheney will meet for the only vice presidential debate of the campaign. Once again, we need you to take action the moment they leave the stage.

There are four critical things you can do to help beat the Republican spin machine.

Forward this email to family, coworkers, and friends.
Vote in online polls.
Write a letter to the editor.
Call radio and television stations.
Your 10 minutes of activism following the debate can make the difference. It is important that we double our efforts from the last debate, because the Republicans are now copying our strategy.

Vote in Online Polls
National and local news organizations will be conducting online polls during and after the debate asking for readers' opinions. Look for online polls at these news websites, and make sure to vote in every one of them:

CNN: http://www.cnn.com/
MSNBC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/
Wall Street Journal: http://www.wsj.com/
LA Times: http://www.latimes.com/
Akron Beacon-Journal: http://www.ohio.com/
Minneapolis-St. Paul Star-Tribune: http://www.startribune.com/
Orlando Sentinel: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/
Philadelphia Inquirer: http://www.philly.com/
South Florida Sun-Sentinel: http://www.sun-sentinel.com/
And be sure to check the websites of your local newspapers and TV stations for online polls. It is crucial that you do this in the minutes immediately following the debate.

Make sure swing voters know why you support John Kerry by sharing your thoughts on message boards in target states. Visit our 2004 Debate Center after the debate for a list of message boards where you can fight the Republican spin. If you visit chat rooms on AOL, MSN, Yahoo, or other websites, be sure to let people know what you thought of the debate.

Write a Letter to the Editor
Immediately after the debate, go online and write a letter to the editor of your local paper. If you feel John Edwards presented an optimistic vision for the next four years, put it in your letter. If you feel Dick Cheney failed to explain the last four years of failed policies, put it in your letter.

Writing a letter is easier than you think. It takes just a few minutes and just a few clicks using our online media center:

http://www.democrats.org/media/

Call Radio and TV Stations
TV and radio coverage immediately following the debate is where much of the spin is cemented. Make sure you call radio and TV stations to tell them what you thought.

Find shows in your area on our media website:

http://www.democrats.org/media/find.html

Also...
Don't forget to visit our 2004 Debate Center before, during, and after the debate for important information and more ways to take action.