Posted on 10/05/2004 9:33:52 AM PDT by crushelits
Tragic Trip
Saturday, Oct. 2, 2004
Yeah, calling you a Dim was going too far.
I don't object to charities helping those who need it, I even contribute.
I just object strenuously to the government doing it or mandating it.
So9
Typical turd world mentality.
HAVE FELT THAT WAY FOR AT LEAST 45 YEARS OF MY 57.
Lived in San Diego 10 years and NEVER went to TJ.
Only went to Mexico briefly with my dad as a teen and once briefly across the border a hundred or 200 miless East of San Diego where I bought a few pastries. With Dad was a very NONTRIP. We went back and forth over a dirt road looking for some route to somewhere which we never found and eventually came back across the border after only going to and fro over a dirt road that went nowhere that we found! LOL.
I STRONGLY agree with you, Indie, and until you, have never found others to feel as strongly about it as I do.
I still think that the dreams of Chinese army invading the USA through Mexico with Mexicans will end up true. I don't know if the rumors of Chinese soldiers probing across the border with Mexican soldiers are true or not. But it's very plausible to me.
BTW, as you know, there's a dream (more than one, actually) posted on this thread, which indicates that there will be devastating terrorist attacks in Oct--including NYC, across the world and around the world:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1233624/posts
THX.
NO!
Because some stupid Mexicans acted like @$$e$ and allowed a man to die doesn't give us the right or okay to lower ourselves to their level.
We should 1) treat the need, 2) verify their status, 3) detain their butts, 4) deport their @$$, 5) hit Mexico with recouperative surcgarges in every monitary exchange made from dollars to pesos and vice-versa.
what are you talking about?
"Then they'll sue whatever and however tenuous link they can find to some American firm,"
such as?
YEA FREEPERS!
BTW,
Given the givens . . . crush of people and events . . .
EVEN THOUGH John has said that 2-3 more servers--which are now supposedly installed and running well--would be more than sufficient . . .
I'D MUCH PREFER TO SEE US collect another $5,000-15,000 toward more hardware horsepower. I still believe that even the increases we've seen are relatively nothing compared to what's coming.
And, it still seems like the preferred 100 or 250 posts headlines desired are cut down to 50 or 25 far more often than should be necessary. Maybe I haven't been paying close enough attention to that and I'm just remembering.
I'd just sure like to see us have hardware installed ahead of the curve vs lagging behind with John having to play unnecessary catch-up. Perhaps I don't understand his philosophy on such well enough. Perhaps his expectations on our useage expansions are more accurate.
I just believe that as we get closer and closer to the election and beyond that FR will GROW EXPONENTIALLY at a fairly fast clip. And all the more so IF THERE REALLY ARE terrorist attacks as so many of us believe will occur before the election or shortly afterwards.
Just my 2 cents. But given the rapid reaching toward the goal, why not buttress the hardware end of things with LOTS of redundancy that could handle exponential growth with ease??? John--would it REALLY BE LIKELY to get THAT outdated THAT soon vs being USED by greater numbers that soon?
THANKS TONS FOR ALL YOU DO AND FOR ALL THAT FREEPERS DO IN FREEPING AND SHARING THE $$$ LOAD.
YEA GOD. LONG LIVE OUR REPUBLIC AND FR!
LOL. I love it. Thanks for taking the heat on this. I'm right there with you on this. Father Darwin can take care of those deemed worthy.
Who to sue?
Please, you really think a John Edwards couldn't find someone to sue from this? Use your imagination. Somewhere along the line there will be some connection to some American corporation who'll be brought in one way or another.
I know of one case just now pending in a federal court over an improperly maintained, mexican-built product that harmed someone in Mexico City. Plaintiff found a, shall we say, very shaky way to bring an American company into federal court over it. A stretch, but they did it.
The larger point is that no such suit in Mexico would go very far. There's a good and a bad side to that...
I totally agree. That is why I asked it as a question to promote discussion. I also think that we should do away with "citizenship by the soil" so that simply being born in the US to non-citizens does NOT confer citizenship status, thus reducing the incentive for pregnant women to come here as aliens just to head to the hospital for a free delivery of both their baby and an American child who goes immediately on Medicaid.
It also makes it's own citizens pay --- of course health care in Mexico is far cheaper than in the USA --- nurses make about $2 an hour --- doctors over there don't make what nurses over here make an hour. One reason Mexico's citizens come over here is because if they seek the cheaper health care there, they will have a bill to pay off --- it might take a few weeks or months. If they come over here instead it's completely free, they are not required to pay anything at all even though it's many hundreds or thousands of dollars more expensive over here.
Well ---- he discovered his heritage. Too bad growing up in the USA that he didn't believe that America was his heritage.
How about let's begin by demanding it become mandatory that only a legal citizen be eligible to apply for benefits on behalf of themselves or for minors in their legal custody? Then we make it mandatory that any applicant for benefits be required to qualify with a minimum twenty consecutive quarter contributions to the SSI trust fund by either themselves or a legal guardian sponsor. Then lastly, we implement a scannable, verifiable SSI card that could help reduce systemwide fraud.
And true to form, it killed him.
One of my friends, who's in the medical profession at our local hospital, told me many practicioners fear legal reprisals from scum like Edwards if they make a determination of a non-emergency condition and, because of illegals' less than sanitary living conditions, should a complication arise, it potentially puts their careers and reputations in jeopardy - so they just treat everyone.
It's akin to the zero-tolerance policies adopted by schools that removes the judgement error out of personal decisions..right or wrong, because of the fear of costly litigation, who can blame them?
Dang, you said a mouthful--very unfortunate, but very true.
I think that right now each state applies for benefits on behalf of the babies born to illegal aliens. The hospitals and a lot of physicians (like neonatologisits who might have to provide high level care for months) are only too happy to go along so that they get paid. Still, if babies born here to illegal aliens were not instantly citizens "by the soil" then it would fairly quickly reduce the burden hospitals and physicians face because there would be much less incentive to "visit" here illegally and legally here while 40 weeks pregnant. And if enforcement efforts against illegals were stepped up, that would help also. Of course since states are acting to get back their citizen's tax money coerced by the Federal Government in violation of the Constitution (esp 9th and 10th Amendments) they have less incentive than you would think to oppose changes. Getting a Congress full of Dr. Ron Paul's would help that considerably also. Just dreamin', unfortunately...
Post 36: For every Illegal Insurgent here from Mexico that is treated for medical concerns the Mexican Government should be billed and made to pay.
Liberal? MExico is a socialist country. They have National Health Insurance, for all the good it does the poor people. They didn't treat the kid because he was an AMERICAN CITIZEN!!!!!
I visualize peasants across mexico chortling "here we are treated like the basura we are but the Norteamericanos are so afraid of us they treat us like kings."
It's not to worry about the ERs, soon enough they will all be sued out of business and nobody will get treatment.
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