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Israelis force down Lufthansa jet
BBC ^ | 10/5/2004 | BBC

Posted on 10/05/2004 6:37:20 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever

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To: Michael81Dus
Kerry would continue the Clinton/Daschle military cuts. His record of 20 years in the Senate reveals major cuts in military spending and major increases in taxation. I can't cast a vote for a leader who sells out his countrymen, and can't decide which side of an issue he's on. My confidence that Kerry would make sound decisions is about 0%. He's a wild card, just like taking a case to jury - it's a crap shoot. I'm not willing to take that risk.

Another piece related to our discussion just posted on FR Kerry's nuclear nonsense

61 posted on 10/05/2004 8:11:00 AM PDT by stainlessbanner (Kerry Sign the 180)
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To: Preachin'

Fan belt, hahahaha!!!

To the article - better safe than sorry.


62 posted on 10/05/2004 8:11:20 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: Michael81Dus
These months, FR is nothing else than a "SUPPORT BUSH"-site. Every topic, whether domestic or foreign is related to the Bush/Kerry race. Pretty boring, and even worse, not a very reasonable style of discussion. You can´t say anything which could be understood as an expression of criticism for Bush/Cheney. Sad. I hope, this gets better here after Nov. 2nd.

I hope you'll pardon our preoccupation with the election that determines the future of our nation. I mean, we don't mean to be selfish Americans - it just happenes, and all we can really do is beg your forgiveness.

Perhaps FR topics need to pass a "Global Test"?

63 posted on 10/05/2004 8:11:44 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (How do you ask a hamster to be the last hamster to die for a mistake?)
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To: Preachin'

Hey, 25,000 soldiers, mostly Air Force, in a country from which you can easily reach the Med Sea, the North Sea, the Baltic Sea, N Africa and Russia. In addition, it´s not too far from the States. Germany IS a strategic valuable country, and I wouldn´t say that if I weren´t believing it. :)


64 posted on 10/05/2004 8:12:49 AM PDT by Michael81Dus
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To: Chieftain

I just had a _hit fit, on Luth customer service they would not give me info about this.......

wifee was on trip to romania (left yesterday from wv), i scheduled her through frankfort on same airline company to keep her away from Paris, i didn't want her to spend a dime in france.

when report first came out it did not list flight number.
luckily they have since updated it.

Now, I'm glad i scheduled her return through Austria.


65 posted on 10/05/2004 8:12:56 AM PDT by wvromania (CHALLENGE KERRY to release DATE and TIME he Visited Troops at hospital!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Michael81Dus
Please give me an example, when Germany has waved the white flag to terrorists.

Did Germany sign the UN Resolution to enter Iraq?

I have a feeling that your nation is about to be thoroughly embarrassed over the UN "Oil For Food" program.

66 posted on 10/05/2004 8:13:11 AM PDT by Preachin' (Kerry/Rather 2004)
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To: Michael81Dus

"Well, if Bush or Kerry had said that he wanted to get home all US troops from Germany because he no longer considers my country an ally, and that from now on German citizens had to apply for visas before entering the US, well, then I would definitely say this election is crucial for my life."

Don't hold your breath waiting for either candidate to say any of the above - it's an election year don't you know! And considering you don't know Kerry's intentions regarding the above (none of us do), shouldn't that make you a)the least bit curious to know and b)feel concerned that it may critically affect you if he is elected? How do you already know that this election isn't crucial to our US/Germany relationship when you have no idea what one of the candidates really stands for?


67 posted on 10/05/2004 8:14:11 AM PDT by LibSnubber (liberal democrats ARE domestic terrorists)
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To: Michael81Dus
What does this flight have to do with the US Presidential Election? Simple. Just imagine if the plane had exploded over Tel Aviv, killing all on board, hundreds on the ground, and causing physical devastation to the city. Then imagine what the Islamo-fascists would have trumpeted in the mosques and on their airwaves: a victory over Western Imperialism and the Zionist Entity; demonstration that the evil hands of Bush cannot protect his allies and friends from the courageous acts of those martyrs engaged in jihad.

In sum, it does not matter in the least that it is a German airplane. Its destruction, especially over the Zionist Entity, would bring shame upon Bush and honor to the cause of Jihad.

68 posted on 10/05/2004 8:14:34 AM PDT by Remole
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To: Michael81Dus

They haven't, yet. I see Germany, a once proud nation being taken over by a bunch of wimps who would rather surrender than fight. I have always admired Germany, particularly the way they stood against the former Soviet Union. I see the Eurotrash ruining Germany, Belgium and other once great nations. It is very sad, indeed.


69 posted on 10/05/2004 8:17:22 AM PDT by wjcsux (Don't be a girly man! Vote Republican!)
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To: stainlessbanner

Yes, sure, you´re right. BUT, this is not an issue I should consider. If I were eligible to vote (= being American), I certainly would consider all you said. But I am not, and I -forgive me- don´t feel affected a lot by your taxes or military spending. This election is not so important that it would be worth to mention on a discussion about the forced landing of a Lufthansa jet on Cyprus by the IDF. Take care, and have a successful day on Nov. 2nd.


70 posted on 10/05/2004 8:17:59 AM PDT by Michael81Dus
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To: Michael81Dus
In addition, it´s not too far from the States.

All the more reason that you should have aided us in Iraq and Afghanistan.

It seems that we Europe only considers us "close" when it befits her.

What a shame.

My friends and I like to slam Spain for withdrawing their support, but in the end.. they still went.

71 posted on 10/05/2004 8:18:03 AM PDT by Preachin' (Kerry/Rather 2004)
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To: Michael81Dus

We don't need your(kerry's) idea of foreign policy.


72 posted on 10/05/2004 8:18:45 AM PDT by bushrocks04
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To: Preachin'

Since when are UN resolutions signed? However, the 1441 was accepted when Germany was not member of the UNSC. And as far as the oil for food scandal is concerned, you won´t find German representatives on that list. It was mostly a French and Russian thing.


73 posted on 10/05/2004 8:19:31 AM PDT by Michael81Dus
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To: LibSnubber

Mhm. Kerry has lived in Berlin, and he says he wants more dialogue with his partners. I don´t think that this means the end of partnership. Seriously. And if it comes, I will spend you two beers. One for the lost election of Bush, and one for the end of the transatlantic partnership. ;-) I´m sure I will save my money. :-)


74 posted on 10/05/2004 8:22:18 AM PDT by Michael81Dus
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To: Michael81Dus
However, the 1441 was accepted when Germany was not member of the UNSC.

Well, you sure were lobbying against it, weren't you?

75 posted on 10/05/2004 8:22:27 AM PDT by Preachin' (Kerry/Rather 2004)
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To: wjcsux

You are good at heart, and I am glad to find someone who has some positive feelings towards my country. I wish our both countries the best, and God knows, we need it, now more than ever!!


76 posted on 10/05/2004 8:24:48 AM PDT by Michael81Dus
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To: Michael81Dus
Kerry has lived in Berlin, and he says he wants more dialogue with his partners.

On Frerepublic, you don't have to use the word "partnership." You can use the accepted ter of "caving."

I don't want a president who partners with France, Germany and Russia, when they can't ally with us during our darkest days.

With frinds like this, who needs enemies?

77 posted on 10/05/2004 8:25:22 AM PDT by Preachin' (Kerry/Rather 2004)
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To: Preachin'

LOL, no, Schröder was never lobbying against the UN, just against the US - that´s a difference, y´know? ;-)


78 posted on 10/05/2004 8:25:38 AM PDT by Michael81Dus
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To: Preachin'

Excuse me, but have you noticed that we are part of the coalition in Afghanistan and the country with the 2nd most soldiers there (behind you).


79 posted on 10/05/2004 8:26:36 AM PDT by Michael81Dus
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To: Michael81Dus

Perhaps Germany should 'up' their own military rather than depending on the USA.


80 posted on 10/05/2004 8:28:15 AM PDT by mrs tiggywinkle (AMERICA, LAND OF THE FREE **BECAUSE** OF THE BRAVE.)
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