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Dale Earnhardt Jr. vs profanity police (VOTE)
SportsLine.com ^ | 10/04/04 | Brian De Los Santos

Posted on 10/04/2004 5:58:07 PM PDT by cilbupeR_eerF

Edited on 10/04/2004 6:00:58 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Asked what it meant to win at Talladega for a fifth time, Dale Earnhardt Jr. responded as if he were talking with some buddies at a bar.

"Well, it don't mean s*** right now. Daddy's won here 10 times. So, I've got to do more winning. But we're going to get there. He was the master. I'm just following in his tracks."

But he wasn't at a bar, he was in Victory Lane in front of millions of people on national television.

It was harmless slip of the tongue that should prove costly -- both monetarily and in the points chase.

Ever since the Super Bowl halftime controversy over the exposure of Janet Jackson's breast, the Federal Communications Commission has been cracking down on profane language and behavior on the airwaves.

At the beginning of the season, NASCAR president Mike Helton warned drivers to watch their tongues.

When Busch Series drivers Ron Hornaday Jr. and Johnny Sauter said the same word on live radio at earlier events this season, they were fined $10,000 and docked 25 series points.

With his victory at Talladega on Sunday, Earnhardt Jr. moved into first in the point standings, 13 ahead of Kurt Busch. A similar points penalty would knock him back to second, 12 behind Busch.

"Johnny Sauter said it in a fit of anger," explained Earnhardt Jr. "I said it in Victory Lane. Do you want the commercial of Matt (Kenseth) being a robot to come to fruition?

"I hope they understand that it was in jubilation, and I know me and those other guys that got fined let it slip, but it's two different circumstances. I think that when you're happy and joyous about something and it happens, I think it's different than being angry and cursing in anger.

"Of course we don't want to promote that. But if a guy is in Victory Lane jumping up and down and let's a 's***' slip out, I don't think that's something we need go hammering down on."

Two points to make here:

1. NASCAR set a precedent when it deducted points from Hornaday and Sauter -- and those two cursed before a much smaller audience.

It has no choice but to do the same to Earnhardt Jr. It doesn't matter that he said it in a moment of joy. The word is the word, the FCC doesn't much care how it's said.

Not deducting points shows favoritism and raises eyebrows throughout the garage and among the non-Earnhardt faction of fans.

2. Points should not be taken away for infractions not involving competition.

While all the drivers know the rules, penalizing points for a flippant remark after a heated battle or in a moment of joy is a bit much.


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KEYWORDS: biggovernment; dalejr; earnhardt; earnhardtjr; nanny; nascar; values
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I hope the profanity doesn't violate posting rules, but it certainly merits discussion.
1 posted on 10/04/2004 5:58:07 PM PDT by cilbupeR_eerF
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To: cilbupeR_eerF

God help him if he flashed a tit.


2 posted on 10/04/2004 6:01:33 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: cilbupeR_eerF
Ay, cójalos.
3 posted on 10/04/2004 6:01:54 PM PDT by Xenalyte (And then I says, "Tell me I'm wrong!" and he says, "I can't, baby, 'cause you're NOT!")
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To: cilbupeR_eerF

NASCAR has their rules. The drivers know the rules. There is an image to be upheld, an image that is worth $$. Thus breaking the rules must have consequences.


4 posted on 10/04/2004 6:03:27 PM PDT by craig_eddy
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To: cilbupeR_eerF

Until I read that post, I only believed the 2nd point... but it seems you are also right about the 1st. Gosh darn it.


5 posted on 10/04/2004 6:04:15 PM PDT by TheWyzzyrd (Red is grey and yellow white, but we decide which is right.. and which is an illusion. (Moody Blues))
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To: cilbupeR_eerF

They have to dock him points. They have done so to other drivers that violated this rule during this season.


6 posted on 10/04/2004 6:04:45 PM PDT by sharktrager (Nobody deserves our hostility when they are in a time of need.)
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To: cilbupeR_eerF
This shows a definite lack of class.

Unfortunately that lack of class permeates society. Look around this website and you will see examples of the very same casual profanity.

7 posted on 10/04/2004 6:07:36 PM PDT by SaveTheChief ("It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech." - Senator Zell Miller)
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To: cilbupeR_eerF

Once again Mike Helton shoots himself in the foot by making a rule, and then finding himself in the position of having to chose between consistency or star-power. Good luck Mike, you really (bleeped) yourself on this one. Oooops, do you think I'll get docked any points by the Admin Moderator?


8 posted on 10/04/2004 6:08:26 PM PDT by Tallguy (If the Kerry campaign implodes any further, they'll reach the point of "singularity" by election day)
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To: craig_eddy

Jr has zero class, and I hope NASCAR makes him pay.


9 posted on 10/04/2004 6:08:46 PM PDT by oldtimer
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To: Tallguy

finally, a post that makes sense. thanks


10 posted on 10/04/2004 6:10:42 PM PDT by Annie5622
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To: craig_eddy

Yes Nascar has their rules, but Earnhardt is a favorite for a lot of tobacco chewin, beer drinkin, truck drivin, flag wavin....well you get the picture.

S*** is a normal part of their everyday conversation. Its becoming less profane I think.

Should NASCAR relax its restrictions? or no.


11 posted on 10/04/2004 6:10:45 PM PDT by cilbupeR_eerF
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To: cilbupeR_eerF
He should have just quoted Theresa Heinz on them. Meaning's the same, and in all probability he'd avoid unnecessary friction.
12 posted on 10/04/2004 6:10:49 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: cilbupeR_eerF


13 posted on 10/04/2004 6:11:30 PM PDT by weatherFrEaK (Who, me?)
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To: oldtimer

Class??? you want class, go want a Miss America Pagent, not a stock car race.


14 posted on 10/04/2004 6:13:52 PM PDT by Annie5622
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To: glock rocks; WestCoastGal; NormsRevenge; steveegg; ChefKeith

And the storm clouds continue to gather...


15 posted on 10/04/2004 6:14:17 PM PDT by tubebender (If I had known I would live this long I would have taken better care of myself...)
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To: All

this is why i have always like Gordon, Bobby Lebonte, Dale Jarrett and Terry Lebonte. Hate em you may but you have to admit they are still class act.


16 posted on 10/04/2004 6:14:30 PM PDT by wvromania (CHALLENGE KERRY to release DATE and TIME he Visited Troops at hospital!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: cilbupeR_eerF

Junior is busy trying to be a Kidd Rock. He's a good driver, but he is working too hard to impress the Hollywood set.


17 posted on 10/04/2004 6:14:49 PM PDT by TN4Liberty (John Kerry has more positions than the Kama Sutra.)
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To: cilbupeR_eerF

It occurs to me -- this bein' Talladega 'n all -- that Dale Earnhardt, Jr. needs a restrictor plate somewhere else.


18 posted on 10/04/2004 6:16:21 PM PDT by Tallguy (If the Kerry campaign implodes any further, they'll reach the point of "singularity" by election day)
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To: cilbupeR_eerF

It's okay honey, Mommy understands if you say that word in a joyful moment. But never use it when you are angry or you will get in deep doo doo.


19 posted on 10/04/2004 6:16:33 PM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: cilbupeR_eerF
A moment of silence for the banished onomatopoeia, please.
20 posted on 10/04/2004 6:16:40 PM PDT by Old Professer (Fear is the fountain of hostility.)
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