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IRS Asked If Churches Can Pray for Bush Re-Election
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 10/04/04 | Susan Jones

Posted on 10/04/2004 6:11:50 AM PDT by kattracks

(CNSNews.com) - Is it legal for churches to pray for the re-election of President George W. Bush during their services?

The Christian Defense Coalition says it is seeking "clarification" from the Internal Revenue Service, before coalition members launch a two-week prayer tour in Pennsylvania and Ohio.

"As Christians, we are praying that God grant President Bush four more years because of his support for the sanctity of human life, his strong commitment to the protection of traditional marriage and his stance on religious freedom and liberty in the public square," said the Rev. Patrick J. Mahoney, director of the Christian Defense Coalition.

"It is clear that the public policies of the president are more in line with historic Christianity then those of Senator Kerry. It is our hope that the IRS will not crush religious freedom by attempting to censor and control how churches feel compelled to pray," Mahoney said in a press release.

The American Center for Law and Justice has written to the IRS on behalf of the Christian Defense Coalition, explaining that Mahoney plans to "offer prayer during the evening services in the churches he visits that God grants President Bush four more years as president and that Sen. Kerry does not become president."

Americans United for Separation of Church and States, a group that monitors politics from the pulpit, says churches, like all tax-exempt organizations, "absolutely prohibited from supporting or opposing candidates for elected public office."

Americans United says churches that support or oppose a candidate may face an IRS audit, fines and loss of tax-exempt status.



TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: churchandstate; irs
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To: steplock
I PRAY that no church asked the irs for permission to do anything! That would be done ONLY by a 'church' of man (?) NOT by a Church of G_d!

Isn't the IRS bound by these clarification letters these days? This could get interesting.

21 posted on 10/04/2004 7:53:09 AM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: dasboot
"Methinks Mahoney is being dumb like a fox, here."

Hmm.. It's posibool, it's posibool.

Personally, I am unaware of any smart foxes that hike their legs on the wolf's door jam.
22 posted on 10/04/2004 9:33:32 AM PDT by Tweaker
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To: KidGlock; biblewonk
What can a church legally do with regard to political speech?

Anything it wants to do! The real problem is that nearly all churches lack faith. Instead of saying whatever needs to be said, churches remain silent just to protect their tax-exempt status.

"Render to Caesar"? No way. We'd much rather keep quiet and worship The Almighty (Dollar)!

23 posted on 10/04/2004 9:40:32 AM PDT by newgeezer (fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Holy Bible, i.e. words mean things!)
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To: EdReform

BTTT


24 posted on 10/04/2004 9:41:37 AM PDT by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: Tweaker
He's putting the bureaucrats at the IRS in a quandary: they can't say "don't pray"; thus , within the confines of any policy cooked up at the IRS, the churches would be able to slightly modify the previously suspect "voter guides" etc, and be quite immune from ACLU harassment.

Let the IRS clarify!

25 posted on 10/04/2004 9:42:18 AM PDT by dasboot (<img src="XXX">)
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To: William Martel
You might be interested in my post #23. If anyone is "silencing" preachers, it's their congregations who value money over stewardship.
26 posted on 10/04/2004 9:42:48 AM PDT by newgeezer (fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Holy Bible, i.e. words mean things!)
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To: kattracks

This is the typical double standard. Of course, the ACLU would never take the conservative side.

What I want to know is why Islamic mosques are given tax exempt status while their "Moo-Lahs" are preaching murder and overthrow of the government? How can we put up with this sh*t when Christian churches aren't even allowed to state a preference in a political race?


27 posted on 10/04/2004 9:47:27 AM PDT by ArmedNReady ( George Bush has Global Test-icles!)
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To: chris1
I really don't understand why we don't hammer away at liberal politicans who campaign in Black Churches. If GWB did what liberals typically do, these people would have coroneries.

I agree.

This has really bothered me especially in the past few days when I see Kerry in these black churches. The dems get a free pass and we have to "ask" if we can pray?

Puleeze!

28 posted on 10/04/2004 9:49:56 AM PDT by It's me
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To: kattracks

Why do these churches any more need to ask that question than the liberal Democrat black churches which continually provide a forum to leftist Dems??

How about the "Reverend" Jackson and "Reverend" Sharpeton??


29 posted on 10/04/2004 9:49:57 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: dasboot
I understand your point, and it's well taken.
I just don't see the need in validating the IRS's involvement in matters of faith, or anything else.
30 posted on 10/04/2004 9:54:09 AM PDT by Tweaker
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To: Chaguito

Not this time.

They'll have to say yay or nay on it. Either way they lose.


31 posted on 10/04/2004 11:01:26 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Hey! They've got lettuce today. Oops, that's not lettuce...)
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To: kattracks

Why not pray for Bush and Kerry. For Bush that he continue his work and for Kerry that God change his heart.


32 posted on 10/04/2004 11:09:16 AM PDT by Raycpa (Alias, VRWC_minion,)
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To: Tweaker

I think it's just a ploy to put the irs into a "have you quit beating your wife, answer yes or no" situation. Going nowhere, IMO.


33 posted on 10/04/2004 11:30:49 AM PDT by Chaguito
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To: frog_jerk_2004

snicker...


34 posted on 10/04/2004 11:36:22 AM PDT by DanTheAdmin (A conservitive bases his politics on his morals-a liberal bases his morals on his politics.)
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To: newgeezer

That definitely sounds like a good point to me.


35 posted on 10/04/2004 12:34:21 PM PDT by William Martel (Foreign stupidity makes America stronger.)
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