[blanknoone]

the "enlightenment"

Please don't confuse the issue with the enlightenment. The leading figures of the enlightenment were Locke, Jefferson, Washington etc...NOT sexual deviants.

[MarlboroRed]

Nonsense. Whether we call them rationalists or children of the enlightenment, they're all fools who ignore reality, and the fundamental stability of our Judeo-Christian ethic.

I have very little patience for Descartes and Kant and the lesser fools like Locke.

As for our founding fathers, their act was as anti-conservative as you can get--they were lucky that the mass of the American public at the time was more than capable of self-government and self-sufficiency. Revolutions like ours never worked anywhere else in the Americas or anywhere else in the world, for that matter. Revolutions have resulted in despotism and misery. Let's not romanticize.