[cyncooper]

there is another thread saying that the media was calling the debate a draw till they went to a conservative blog and saw all the hand-wringing...most likely the live debate thread here and now the MSM is going nuts saying Kerry will win the election. They're like sharks smelling blood and now they are going in for the kill.

Exactly. It's been plain to me since the debate was going on. Those here to spread their propaganda and the regular freepers who should be embarrassed and ashamed of themselves to be so eager to take negative messages and embrace them.

[valleygal]

GWB is not a good "formal" debater and will hopefully, be more himself at the "town hall" debate.

Kerry has been debating since he came back form Viet Nam (debated John O'Neill on Dick Cavett, remember?)

Reagan lost his first debate to Mondale and Al Gore supposedly beat GWB in the 2000 debates...last I checked Reagan and GWB both won.

The media is spinning like crazy. I saw the other day here and now Drudge has the same article up saying C-SPAN got footage of , Joe Lockhart telling Mike McCurry the debate was draw immediately after, then he went on TV and said Kerry won.

I'm surprised they aren't all throwing up from the dizziness after all the spinning they've been doing.