[Howlin]

Nobody in their right mind would have said Bush would win this debate 2 to 1; we've all seen him debate before; he's awkward; the best we could have hoped for was a draw; we didn't get it.

Thank goodness the Democrats don't realize that the presidency isn't a debating club.

[LADY J]

"the best we could have hoped for was a draw; we didn't get it."

The C-Span camera following Lockhart around has him saying it WAS a draw!

[Jorge]

Nobody in their right mind would have said Bush would win this debate 2 to 1; we've all seen him debate before; he's awkward; the best we could have hoped for was a draw; we didn't get it.

But I thought Bush was kicking Kerry's butt in the first half.

I mean Kerry has been such a flip-flopper on this issue it is beyond comprehension that Bush wasn't prepared with a wealth of facts and quotes to expose Kerry with.

I really think Bush got some bad advice on how to handle Kerry. He could have easily won this debate IMHO.