[workerbee]

There was a lot of talk on this board of how "Bush is going to kick Kerry's ass" at the debates. I was not one of those people. I remember what I saw of W in the debates with Gore. W is simply not a very good debater, he wasn't then and he isn't now.

Exactly right. I guess that's why I don't feel esp. "good" or "bad" about how things went tonight. IOW, I think Bush came across as most people kind of expected -- some hemming and hawing, but lots of heart. I certainly don't think it was the catastrophe some people are making it out to be. Kerry was glib and smooth and he'll probably (finally) see a bit of a bounce after tonight, but I don't think it will be substantial enough or last long enough to win the election.

[Truthsearcher]

I also think Bush successfully lowered expectations enough that he'll "win" the next 2 debates.

[Bob from De]

Whether Dubya won or lost will soon be forgotten.
What will not be forgotten are the lies and outrageous statements made by Kerry!

I've always had one position on Iraq?
I never said President Bush lied?
Global Test?
Nuke fuel to Iran?
Saddam was not a threat early in debate, but was a threat by end of debate?
Dissing Allies?
Dissing Allawi?
Mixed messages = aid and comfort to terrorists!
Kerry has reinforced the fact that he is a liar and an opportunist. That will be what is remembered from this debate.