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To: prairiebreeze

No drama, Prairie.. just raw truth. We can't spin this one.. GW lost it.. he was indecisive, weak, and wavering in his voice and demeanor. And he lost that 17% with his performance. This race is tight.. and he blinked bigtime.

I hate it. I'm sick about it. But it's the truth... the dem's have the momentum now and it will be h*ll to get it back, if we ever can. After the election you can call me a "drama queeen", but not before.


3,020 posted on 09/30/2004 8:48:27 PM PDT by In The Defense of Liberty (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: In The Defense of Liberty

How do you want your crow served on November 3rd?


3,028 posted on 09/30/2004 8:49:27 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Oompa Loompa Doopity Do - I've got a perfect puzzle for you: Find John Kerry's Personality!!)
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To: In The Defense of Liberty

You are a drama queen!


3,037 posted on 09/30/2004 8:50:46 PM PDT by GOP
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To: In The Defense of Liberty

Yes I can. . .

Your a "Drama Queen"

So There....


3,048 posted on 09/30/2004 8:51:42 PM PDT by antisocialista (Illegitimus Non Carborundum.)
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To: In The Defense of Liberty
No drama, Prairie.. just raw truth. We can't spin this one.. GW lost it.. he was indecisive, weak, and wavering in his voice and demeanor. And he lost that 17% with his performance. This race is tight.. and he blinked bigtime. I hate it. I'm sick about it. But it's the truth... the dem's have the momentum now and it will be h*ll to get it back, if we ever can. After the election you can call me a "drama queeen", but not before.

I do not think your opinion will pass the global test.

Modern Debates are framed by individual moments.

Reagan's 'there you go again', Bush smiling at Gore as he came into his space' etc.

This debate will be remembered simply as 'the global test'-that sums up the difference between the two men, which one is going to stand for our security.

Amercians do not believe in letting the world have a veto over our security.

3,082 posted on 09/30/2004 8:55:33 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: In The Defense of Liberty

Well I, and many others both here and even some in the media with their post-debate reactions, can't share your overwhelming defeatism and pessimism.

Feel free to wallow in it all you want though. But you sound foolish in the process as do your hysterics.

Prairie


3,095 posted on 09/30/2004 8:57:14 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (The Democrat Party has become a national embarrassment!)
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To: In The Defense of Liberty
"GW lost it.. he was indecisive, weak, and wavering in his voice and demeanor."

And you support this traitor!


3,106 posted on 09/30/2004 8:59:07 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)
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To: In The Defense of Liberty

You are wrong!


3,117 posted on 09/30/2004 9:00:23 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: In The Defense of Liberty

Here's why I think you are wrong.

KERRY won on presentation and smoothness of speech.

Bush won on focussing the issue and hammering the same thing in his hestitating vocal style.

AMERICA has had it with smooth talkers. Simple, plain spoken and specific repitition of the same thing over and over makes it clear to security conscience folks. W is focussed to the point of obsession on protecting our nation. Kerry sounds smooth but flip flops constantly while he talks... and I had to ask myself, what the HELL did he just say, and then; hey, didn't he just say the opposite.

the big one is on going to the globalist worldwide consortium of FRANCE and GERMANY to get permission to protect ourselves or our allies and friends anywhere... THAT came across loud and clear to everybody. And soccer mommies across america made up their minds, if they weren't made up already.

Bush kept saying the phrase "it's hard work" to the point of irritation for me... but to MOST americans, it is exactly what they wanted to hear, the truth. the hard work, the dying and the sacrifice is NOT done... but worthwhile for the cause of liberty worldwide.

Kerry by focussing on some magical undefined plan whereby he wouldve or would NOT have taken down sadaam (I am still not sure where he stands on it, even moreso tonight), pointed it out that he is slick in SAYING he had a plan, but that it may not have involved HARD WORK. Americans who dug out of 911, KNOW better than a simple "sit down and get helpers" meeting would have taken care of.

In finality... Kerry smoothly denying that Sadaam's regime harbored terrorists, contrasts sharply with our continual killing of al queaida related operatives in Iraq, even last week. America KNOWS that Iraq most likely was directly involved in the long range support for 911. Most likely gave aid and comfort to al queaida associates before and much moreso AFTER 911... and that in some ways the connections between all these islamists, is always going to be deliberately nebulous.

Bush won.
But it didn't feel like a win, because he doesn't talk like a smoothie. Smoothie may impress the simple minded, but Substance, repeated over and over and over, inculcates TRUTH to the viewer.

I think Americans will by and large say the president did OK. I also suspect that W will do more 'smoothly' on the next debate, and that he will take a lot of advantage of the doublesided, fully nuanced double sided positions that kerry embraced tonight.

Getting global permission from the french and germans whilst ignoring the commitments of several dozen other nations of the free world, came across as WEAK on defense and America's sovereignty. I don't want a smooth talker. I want a plain speaker that repeats himself so often that even the stupidest terrorist KNOWS... W is going to nail his ass.


3,172 posted on 09/30/2004 9:10:08 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election is now officially underway.)
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To: In The Defense of Liberty

No drama, Prairie.. just raw truth. We can't spin this one.. GW lost it.. he was indecisive, weak, and wavering in his voice and demeanor. And he lost that 17% with his performance. This race is tight.. and he blinked bigtime.

I hate it. I'm sick about it. But it's the truth... the dem's have the momentum now and it will be h*ll to get it back, if we ever can. After the election you can call me a "drama queeen", but not before.



I agree entirely.

I thought that I'd see Bush land some punches. But I saw a Kerry TKO on technique, never mind that Kerry had to lie and deceive to land punches.


3,183 posted on 09/30/2004 9:12:17 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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