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To: Indie
Tough for a straigh-talker to defeat the expert liar [lawyer] that EFnK is.
Lehrer pitched a softball to Bush asking if tehre were character issues that should keep Kerry from the presidency and he struck out,
This is sad.

But what is really sad is that there are those who are using this to make up their minds.

Our country is in trouble because it is half full of morons.


What a lot of you Freepers have to realize is that for many on the Right, they want Bush to run a negative, harsh smash mouth campaign. Since Kerry is doing that and Bush isn't they think "Kerry is winning" No, he isn't. See what those on the Right who want to punch back 20 times for every punch thrown by Kerry don't understand, Kerry isn't winning any in the middle tonight. That is no way to win the middle. Bush comes off as serious and mature, Kerry as a arrogant know it all. This performance by Kerry will not win him ANY votes with the Ladies. By his performance tonight Kerry just lost the election. See, many of you don't remember the Reagan-Mondale debates. All the "Experts" said the same thing about Mondale you all are saying about Kerry. The problem was while Mondale was wining the debate on style, Reagan was wining on substance. Kerry just lost the election because of his mean spirited negativity. Kerry needed to give us a "Softer gentler" Kerry and he blew it.
2,068 posted on 09/30/2004 7:28:06 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Vote Bush 2004-We have the solutions, Kerry Democrats? Nothing but slogans)
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It's too hysterical here tonight.

The people that have no firm opinion about the candidates, are not emotionally attached.

They aren't in despair over which candidate won on style. IMO, neither did.

They are not jumping up and down saying "Ah-hah! That man stumbled! I'm voting for the other guy!" Only the partisans in each camp are looking for a moment to hammer the other guy with. The undecideds are not hypersensitive to the mannerisms of each.

They are listening to the substance of the debates because they don't particularly care about which candidate scores a point in the image category.

Do not "misunderestimate" the American people. They are not "sheeple" as often labeled. Instead of concentrating of which person perspired more, they were focusing on the candidates words. It's amazing that more people here seem to be focused on image over substance, when conservatism is proudly defined as a realist ideology.

Bush had the edge in substance and Kerry had some disturbing remarks in this debate.

IMO, we arrive at a draw. Kerry's remarks were a turnoff, Bush held positions they were more in agreement with, but he didn't put it away because at moments he was too defensive. However, any observer not emotionally attached caught the constant negativity and attacks on the President of the United states.

Predictions on Undecideds:

They noted Kerry was negative. They noted his constant attacks on the President. They noted his positions on the WOT are not in line with their own. Nothing he did tonight came across as sincere or believable.

They noted the President did not stray from his convictions. They noted moments when he came across defensive. They noted he wasn't at his most articulate.

The next few days they'll have competing forces for their attention. Substance over style.

The memory of the words will outlast the image. The image can only hold until next each is seen. Words are not so easily erased.

Undecideds will still lean toward Bush.


2,746 posted on 09/30/2004 8:16:46 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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