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FR Live Thread: Bush Kerry - First Debate - Thread 2 - Here we go!

Posted on 09/30/2004 5:57:19 PM PDT by Admin Moderator

Thread 1 - Pre-Debate discussion


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; debate; debates; electionpresident; firstdebate; globalpoints; kerry
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To: schouston

Gee a member since 9/17/04. And a negative comment. Me thinks you be DU troll.


1,801 posted on 09/30/2004 7:17:23 PM PDT by sitkaspruce
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To: billorites

Kerry saying "I've never, ever wavered in my life" makes me want to just slap the piss out of him and stick a bar of soap in his mouth.


1,802 posted on 09/30/2004 7:17:30 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: oceanview

Brit and his so called experts thought the President's State of the Union address was poor. The real people thought otherwise. I don't pay a bit of attention to the insiders.


1,803 posted on 09/30/2004 7:17:33 PM PDT by OldFriend (It's the soldier, not the reporter who has given US freedom of the press)
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To: Tarantulas

Kerry just said....he never WAVERS? I about went through the tv screen


1,804 posted on 09/30/2004 7:17:33 PM PDT by GLH3IL (What's good for America is bad for liberals.)
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To: MoJo2001

Let's just see how this is spun. Bush is not playing dirty, which is his problem. So far Kerry has used bad stats and deliberate misinformation, and Bush only called him once on the Iran sanctions thing.

Bush needs to attack Kerry and get him off his rocker. Kerry's answers are nuanced enough to need 1 minute for every 30 seconds he speaks. Bush only gets 90 seconds.

I get disheartened when I listen to Kerry because I sometimes think there are enough fools in this country to believe every word a lying bastard says... (see Bill Clinton). Free Republic bolsters my hopes for this election because it shows me thousands of people who can see Kerry for what he really is.


1,805 posted on 09/30/2004 7:17:35 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Toespi

It's worse than just "I can do better".

It's "I'm going to do exactly every thing he is doing but he does it totally wrong and my way is smarter, better, cheaper, more efficient, and brings in the last 100 troops we could possibly get from France or Germany."


1,806 posted on 09/30/2004 7:17:37 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Oompa Loompa Doopity Do - I've got a perfect puzzle for you: Find John Kerry's Personality!!)
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To: steveegg

Did anyone notice Kerry bringing up that detestable Frenchman DeGaulle? This guy is unbelievable. Churchill and Roosevelt both detested DeGaulle. France was full of weasels then and today and John Kerry loves them.


1,807 posted on 09/30/2004 7:17:37 PM PDT by earlyamerican
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To: overeasy

YOU sure you are in the right site? This is a conservative place......and your posts don't look conservative at all.


1,808 posted on 09/30/2004 7:17:40 PM PDT by tioga
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To: MoJo2001
I recall the last debates in 2000 when people said Gore won the first one. As it turned out, he lost it. Where did he lose it? In the living rooms all across America. John Kerry is overkilling on his perceived "facts" and "statements". For the average person, they are not political junkies. To many folks, John Kerry will come across as a pompous arrogant jackass who votes with the wind when Beavis or Butthead tells him to. That's just my opinion.

You have put your finger on it. Which guy do you trust?
1,809 posted on 09/30/2004 7:17:41 PM PDT by Acrobat (Can Washington State be saved or should we just vote to be annexed by Canada?)
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To: Lee Shore

Here here. I propose that FR (unfortunately) not allow anyone to sign up on these debate nights. Second, this debate is nothing more than an ATTACK on the President with the assistance of the moderator. I just pray that FOX chews this piece of garbage up.


1,810 posted on 09/30/2004 7:17:41 PM PDT by Lancer_N3502A
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To: nopardons

Kerry says he never changes his mind? M'kay.

Is he running for president of Russia?


1,811 posted on 09/30/2004 7:17:45 PM PDT by Jaded ((Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain))
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To: HighlyOpinionated

He mentioned "draft"...said we didn't have a big enough army...and OMG..just said "I've never wilted in my life, I've never wavered in my life"

Barf!


1,812 posted on 09/30/2004 7:17:48 PM PDT by CarolTX (Onward through the fog)
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Kerry says....continually...."I can do better".

That is merely a selfserving statement. No one knows if Kerry could do better. Only Kerry thinks so. It is hubris and extreme selfconfidence. A sense of infallability. As if Kerry would waltz into any situation and do better than anyone else. Arrogance and pompousness. Kerry is displaying the ultimate in self love. Such intense personal belief in ones own perfection is dangerous and will inevitably result in catastrophic events.

1,813 posted on 09/30/2004 7:17:52 PM PDT by Thumper1960 ("It is true that liberty is precious; so precious that it must be carefully rationed."-V.I.Lenin)
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To: varina davis
No knockouts. No obvious gaffes.Both got in some jabs but no serious blood drawn.

The questions were all sandbags aimed at the President and kept him on the defensive most of the night. But again no-knockdowns.

1,814 posted on 09/30/2004 7:17:53 PM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: Admin Moderator
We were trying to play, "Chug Your Beer Every Time Kerry References His Vietnam Experience," but none of us could drink that fast.

Oooh, am I gonna feel like @#^$&%^ tomorrow morning.

1,815 posted on 09/30/2004 7:17:54 PM PDT by Flatus I. Maximus
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To: nopardons

Are you playing the drinking game?


1,816 posted on 09/30/2004 7:17:59 PM PDT by OSHA (It's a WAR not a wedge issue. They are AMERICAN SOLDIERS not petty pawns.)
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To: Joy Angela

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DAVID SHAW: RATHER's work 'Shoddy, Slipshop' not LIBERAL..?

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1227809/posts

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1,817 posted on 09/30/2004 7:18:06 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: MoJo2001
My son just turned 18 and is watching this debate. These are his words:

"Mom, if he is elected, Kerry is a man who will get us bombed to hell. Bush is a man who is like us. He talks what he feels and means what he says. He sounds like grandpa to me and I would trust grandpa with my life. This is the first year that I can vote and I am voting for Bush. I am going to pray very hard that we don't get Kerry 'cause he scares the hell out of me. He is too fake and he is a weasle."

So for anyone who says Kerry may be making a good impression or is winning this thing let me assure you that there are some who think otherwise.

1,818 posted on 09/30/2004 7:18:08 PM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: JFC

The press will spin this as a Kerry win, but they will focus on the style only and not on the facts and the contradictions.


1,819 posted on 09/30/2004 7:18:10 PM PDT by CurlyBill (John Kerry is PeeWee Herman in a Frankenstein costume)
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To: 11th_VA

Thank you for that post. The first time I've smiled in the last hour!


1,820 posted on 09/30/2004 7:18:12 PM PDT by Hildy (The really great men are always simple and true)
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