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To: radicalamericannationalist
States & communities are VERY capable of 'defending themselves from filth'. Ever seen any porn shops in Utah?
193 tpaine

1. Your stating that laws against pornography and prostitution are unconstitutional does not make it so.

Your claim that I've said all laws "against pornography and prostitution are unconstitutional" is ludicrous. States & localities can reasonably regulate the public aspects of such activities, while the criminal aspects of such behaviors have long been covered by our common law.

2. Never been to Utah. But I know that they cannot ban adult bookstores if they so desired.

Wanna bet? The moral majority rules in Utah.
The State is ringed by porn shops just across every adjoining state line. There are none in the State.

199 posted on 09/30/2004 8:05:52 PM PDT by tpaine (No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
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To: tpaine
1. I said: So were our Founders who had laws against pornogrpahy and prostitution simply variants of Marxists?

You said ['SO' rad baby, do you really think constantly hyping the question at hand is a valid debate tactic?]

Many of the original States at ratification had unconstitutional laws on their books, rad.
This was addressed in Article VI, which clearly said that regardless of State laws "to the Contrary notwithstanding", our Constitution was the "Law of the Land".


The clear implication from your comment was that the laws on the books at the time of the founding were unconstitutional. Again, your bare assertion does not make it so.

2. SCOTUS has made it clear that you can regulate adult bookstores by zoning ordinances but you cannot ban them.
200 posted on 09/30/2004 8:15:11 PM PDT by radicalamericannationalist (Kurtz had the right answer but the wrong location.)
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To: tpaine
"The State is ringed by porn shops just across every adjoining state line."

Seems to me a similar thing would happen if we turned the drug legalization decision over to the states and a state wished to continue the ban.

I suppose you'd just giggle and say, "Too bad", huh?

269 posted on 10/01/2004 8:40:58 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: tpaine

Sorry you are flat wrong about 'porn' in Utah.

In fact the defense of the case of a Utah county video store involved searching the porn viewing records of america zip code by zip code. Utah has one of the highest (along with the bible belt) porn viewing rates on DirecTV. Of course that's just a reflection of how embarased they are, in LA they just buy it, in Georgia/Utah they order it on the dish so no one knows.

References:

http://www.mormonstoday.com/001027/B4CorpPorn01.shtml

Many more available by Googling 'Utah county pornography Movie Buffs'. Take your pick of viewpoints.


559 posted on 10/03/2004 10:18:28 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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