[neverdem]

FWIW, this is your tax dollars at work. I'm still skeptical about this greenhouse gases theory. Nobody ever mentions increased solar activity.

[neverdem]

ping

[trashcanbred]

Hmm the hurricanes have been hitting hard... Let's use our gift of hindsight to state that hurricanes will increase because of global warming...

[Tax Government]

What global warming, you NYT hallucinating morons?

[flashbunny]

How environmentalist 'scietists' conduct computer modeling:

Keep changing the numbers in the simulation until you get the desired result. Once your preconceived notion is confirmed, publish your findings.

[Bogey78O]

At this rate we'll have 300 hurricanes per year by 2030!!!!!

Shortsighted people can never understand cyclical events.

[swilhelm73]

If it rains more, it is global warming.

If it rains less, it is global warming.

If it gets hotter, it is global warming.

If it gets colder, it is global warming.

Does that about cover it?

[DSBull]

Global warming is a theory and only a theory. There are reputable Scientists that discount the global warming theory.
They say that since we don't have recorded documentation on global temperatures going back thousands of years there is no way to if we are going through global warming or a normal fluctuation in the earths temperature....

So there!

[Texas Eagle]

Experts also said that rising sea levels caused by global warming would lead to more flooding from hurricanes -

I'm no expert and I didn't see in the article what would cause sea levels to rise but I am going to assume it would be the melting of the polar ice caps. If that's the case, wouldn't that actually cool the seas thereby counter-acting the greenhouse effect?

[Hank All-American]

Would somebody mind explaining to me how we ever emerged from the ice age without factories spewing flouro-carbons into the atmosphere? Wasn't that an example of global warming? Or am I missing something? Like did FDR or Kennedy just legislate natural climate change away and now Bush is wrecking it by dismantling the program?

Enquiring minds want to know.

[Arizona Carolyn]

They explained this on weather channel a couple of weeks ago: every 30+/- years the oceans do a turnover and the Atlantic gets hoter/colder and the Pacific will go just the opposite. When this happens we have more or less hurricanes, depending on the turnover conditions. They said people have become accustomed to fewer-milder hurricanes and since it's been so quiet millions of people have populated the shore line from Texas to Maine and that in itself is a recipe for disaster.

So right now the drought persists in the West with few tropical storms in the Pacific and the Atlantic has become very active. Could last a year, could last 20, no one knows!

[COURAGE]

This is crap. Global Warming decreases hurricanes. As the temperate zones warm up, the heat in the tropics go further north and south, hence the energy that is needed for hurricanes is spread over a wider area. These idiots do not even know the laws of thermodynamics.

[Ptarmigan]

Global Warming is not all doom and gloom. People in Russia and other cold areas would like it. Also, global warming means it will wash the left out to sea.

[denydenydeny]

I want to be the first to say, "I question the timing of this report."

[mississippi red-neck]

We just had the coolest August down here in the last 115 years. Must be all that Global Warming.

It's not greenhouse gas these people are focusing on but Government greenback dollars.

[Post Toasties]

This article is garbage. This hurricane season follows an exceptionally cool summer across most of the eastern United States. Furthermore, hurricanes and tornadoes are cyclonic storms and cyclonic storms ultimately derive their energy from temperature differences between the termperate & polar regions and the equatorial regions. The more global warming (such as it exists), the smaller these differences are, the less energy is available for tornadoes and hurricanes and the fewer and weaker are the hurricanes and tornadoes that do occur.

This, btw, is consistent with the historical record throughout the 20th Century. The climatic models that say otherwise, aren't.

[Mentos]

And in other news, El Chupacabra is expected to cause more Mexican goat disappearances

[lafroste]

Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but isn't hurricane intensity more correctly a function of the differential temperature between sea water and upper atmosphere air, so that a 1 degree drop in the upper atmosphere temp. would produce exactly the same result as a 1 degree increase in water temp, all other things being equal? So wouldn't global cooling ALSO increase hurricane intensity?

Then, whether warming or cooling, wouldn't the intensity diminish as the two temperatures began to equilibrate?

Wasn't this summer pretty cold by historical standards? Why wouldn't that fairly abrupt change in atmospheric temperature be a more likely candidate for a more active hurricane season?

Just wondering....

[nmh]

It's really the fault of Bush.

No wait a minute ... it hot air from the Kerry team!

[Entrepreneur]

This is soooo predictable. This summer was the coolest in more than 20 years. So the environmentalists claim it's cool because of global warming.

We have hot weather... it's global warming.
We have cool weather... it's global warming.
We have hurricanes... it's global warming.
We have droughts... it's global warming.
We have a heavy snowfall... it's global warming.
We have light snow... it's global warming.

I'm waiting for someone to blame Mt St Helens on global warming.

See below...

As Roy W. Spencer, the principal research scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, points out, numerous hurricanes devastated America's Atlantic and Gulf coastlines from the 1930s through the 1950s. The National Hurricane Center, he notes, has "been warning for many years the U.S. coast has had a long run of relatively good luck" and that it was only a matter of time before that streak ran out.

and...

Spencer wisely observes that we tend to forget "that unusual weather is, well, usual."

Yet the punches leveled by Charley, Frances and Ivan have brought the doomsayers out of their caves, eager to blame these catastrophic events on global warming.

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/opinion/9758530.htm?1c


As Stanley Goldenberg of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s hurricane-prediction office in Miami noted, “The hurricane activity that we are having right now is quite adequately explained by (normal) variability and Atlantic sea-surface temperatures.” William Gray of Colorado State University, who has long warned that a Florida with increased population and development would face some devastating blows, put it simply: “I think we should view this just as a natural statistical smoothing of the records.”

http://www.theunionleader.com/articles_showa.html?article=44703


"This isn't a global-warming sort of thing," said Hugh Willoughby, senior scientist at the International Hurricane Research Center of Florida International University. "It's a natural cycle."

and...

"The general consensus is it's unlikely," said Benjamin Preston, senior research fellow at the Pew Center on Global Climate Change, which advocates reductions in emissions of carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping pollutants. "We can actually explain an active hurricane season using natural variability."

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/nation/9739042.htm?1c


How ridiculous are the global warming advocates? Try this one...

Arctic Sea-Ice Thickness: A Harbinger of Global Warming?

http://www.co2science.org/journal/v7/v7n39c1.htm


I kind of like the conclusion of Kazakh scientist(?), Konstantin Borodinov...

I also find it offensive that modern science today has a new research direction – entertaining fantasy to please the exorbitant ambitions of people who are far away from genuine science. A real scientist works in oblivion of the general public, on meager funds, but values first of all his honour and conscience, and authenticity of the information received from the results of his research.

http://www.inform.kz/txt/showarticle.php?lang=eng&id=95153

We ought to call Global Warming the Globaloney Grant Grab.

[ETERNAL WARMING]

LOL They just can't stop with the Global Warming mantra!



From the NOAA via NewsMax: http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/9/28/130037.shtml

Frosty Blast of Reality for the 'Global Warming' Crowd

While searching a federal Web site for information on Hurricane Jeanne, we came across a news item sure make the "Earth in the Balance" gang break out into a cold sweat.

"NOAA REPORTS COOL SUMMER, SEVENTH COLDEST AUGUST ON RECORD ACROSS THE LOWER 48 STATES," the headline blared on the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's site.

Only the Far West was "much above normal." The Northeast and Upper Great Plains states were "below normal," and most of flyover country, from Michigan to Texas, was "much below normal." The Southeast and Southwest were "near normal."

"NOAA scientists report that the average temperature for the contiguous United States for June-August (based on preliminary data) was 71.1 degrees F (21.7 degrees C), which was 1.0 degree F (0.6 degrees C) below the 1895-2003 mean, and the 16th coolest summer on record," the feds advised.

Dandy news for Al Gore, who won't have to feel so guilty next time he gets a speeding ticket in Oregon while making good use of those awful internal-combustion engines he proposed banning for other Americans.