Posted on 09/29/2004 9:19:32 PM PDT by TomVan
Kerry's Military Records
This is more than an eye opener. Unlike McCain, Bush, and Gore... Kerry has adamantly refused to authorize the release of his military records. Most think it's because of his phony battle medals. I think the real reason is below. He was not granted an Honorable Discharge until March 2001, almost 30 years after his ostensible service term had ended! This is very much out of the ordinary, and highly suspect.
There are 5 classes of Discharge: Honorable, General, Other Than Honorable, Bad Conduct, and Dishonorable.
My guess is that he was Discharged in the '70s, but not Honorably. He appealed this sometime while Clinton was doing trouser-tricks in the Oval Office. Political pressure was applied, and the Honorable Discharge was then granted. His file is probably rife with reports of this, submissions and hearings on the appeal, reports of his "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy, along with protests that were filed with respect to his alleged valor under fire.
This will blow up in his face before October 15th.
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On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry signed a 6 year enlistment contract with the Navy (plus a 6-month extension during wartime).
On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry also signed an Officer Candidate contract for 6 years -- 5 years of ACTIVE duty &ACTIVE Naval Reserves, and 1 year of inactive standby reserves (See items #4 &$5).
Because John Kerry was discharged from TOTAL ACTIVE DUTY of only 3 years and 18 days on 3 Jan. 1970, he was then required to attend 48 drills per year, and not more than 17 days active duty for training. Kerry was also subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Additionally, Kerry, as a commissioned officer, was prohibited from making adverse statements against his chain of command or statements against his country, especially during time of war. It is also interesting to note that Kerry did not obtain an honorable discharge until Mar. 12, 2001 even though his service obligation should have ended July 1, 1972.
Lt. John Kerry's letter of 21 Nov. 1969 asking for an early release from active US Navy duty falsely states "My current regular period of obligated service would be completed in December of this year."
On Jan. 3, 1970 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to the Naval Reserve Manpower Center in Bainridge, Maryland.
Where are Kerry's Performance Records for 2 years of obligated Ready Reserve, the 48 drills per year required and his 17 days of active duty per year training while Kerry was in the Ready Reserves? Have these records been released?
Has anyone ever talked to Kerry's Commanding Officer at the Naval Reserve Center where Kerry drilled?
On 1 July 1972 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to Standby Reserve - Inactive.
On 16 February 1978 Lt. John Kerry was discharged from US Naval Reserve.
Below are some of the crimes Lt. Kerry USNR committed as a Ready Reservist, while he was acting as a leader of Vietnam Veterans Against the War:
1. Lt. Kerry attended many rallies where the Vietcong flag was displayed while our flag was desecrated, defiled, and mocked, thereby giving aid and comfort to the enemy. 2. Lt. Kerry was involved in a meeting that voted on assassinating members of the US Senate. 3. Lt. Kerry lied under oath against fellow soldiers before the US Senate about crimes committed in Vietnam. 4. Lt. Kerry professed to being a war criminal on national television, and condemned the military and the USA. 5. Lt. Kerry met with NVA and Vietcong communist leaders in Paris, in direct violation of the UCMJ and the U.S. Constitution.
Lt. Kerry by his own words &actions violated the UCMJ and the U.S. Code while serving as a Navy officer. Lt. Kerry stands in violation of Article 3, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution. Lt. Kerry's 1970 meeting with NVA Communists in Paris is in direct violation of the UCMJ's Article 104 part 904, and U.S. Code 18 U.S.C. 953. That meeting, and Kerry's subsequent support of the communists while leading mass protests against our military in the year that followed, also place him in direct violation of our Constitution's Article 3, Section 3, which defines treason as "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy in time of warfare.
The Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, states, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President ... having previously taken an oath . to support the Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."
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Here's the PDF file for Kerry's "Correction of DD Form 214". Look in box #6 of this form. It will give the date that this form was typed and signed. There is no indication on this form that it was an honorable discharge, it's a form discharging Kerry from ACTIVE duty, not a discharge from the Navy.
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/DD-215_Correction.pdf
CBS will be all over this, liks flies on....
...NOT !
In regards to drilling in a Reserve unit, drilling is not required when an Officer is released from active duty. You must drill only if you wish to earn retirement point as a drilling Reservist. If you do not desire to accumulate retirement points, you serve your Individual Ready Reserve in a non-drilling status.
In my own case, I served 8 years of active duty in the U.S. Navy Medical Corps but never resigned my commission. I told the Navy that I was not interested in a retirement pension and that my purpose for staying in the Ready Reserve was to be available if the Navy ever needed me again. During the Gulf War, I was called back to active duty for initial processing but the war ended before I was fully recalled.
Twenty years after my commissioning date, I was sent a Certificate of Retirement. I never served a single minute with a Reserve unit during my entire Navy career.
Theoretically, Kerry could also have stayed in the Reserves, subject to recall, until 1978 for purely patriotic reasons but I doubt that that was the case.
The question is, "What delayed Kerry's Honorable Discharge until 1978?" Notice that 1978 was during the Carter Administration.
Kerry, however, has successfully deceived the news media and even his own biographer into reporting that he was "discharged" before he joined Vietnam Veterans Against the War:
Kerry Deceives News Media About His Navy Discharge on JohnKerry.com
LiteKeeper, I have a question regarding someone who wants to enlist in the Army Reserve or Air Force. ...Freepmail for you.
It's absolutely true. No cheap shot intended. Anyone who has ever been in the IRR can confirm this.
Are you claiming that this quote deals with Reserves and NOT A SHOT A BUSH ala dimo talking point (debunked as forged document)?
See my Post 65.
Officers don't "re-up". A commissioned officer stays a commissioned officer until he either resigns his commission or until the Navy decides to discharge him.
Thanks. I was an enlisted type and didn't know that.
Read this bro. Get some facts. http://www.nrpc.nola.navy.mil/files/pdf/form_(nrpc-1040-4)guide_to_irr.pdf
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Had you been here through the whole discussion you would see it is directly related to the topic - the IRR. Read before you think and think before you type.
See Polybius' comment #65 and Polybius' reply to me. Policy for me or other enlisted personnel was irrelevant to that for an officer.
Funny, that link to navey personnel says otherwise. It would be nice to discuss with someone that can make their own points.
Are you claiming that this quote deals with Reserves and NOT A SHOT A BUSH ala dimo talking point (debunked as forged document)?.....zip
ClintonBeGone is correct. In the Individual Ready Reserve, your name is in the hat to go back to active duty when the Navy calls but you do not have to be a member of a drilling Reserve unit.
When the Navy is thinking about activating you, you get an order to get a physical. That's your official notification that Uncle Sam is thinking about getting you back into the Canoe Club.
If you fail the physical, you can't get recalled (and you might get discharged from the Reserves).
Carl Rove was on Hannity radio show today [9-28]and said in passing that there was 2 October surprises in the works. Hannity did not follow up on it. You may still be able to hear the show at hannity.com, I am not sure when they change the shows over from one day to the next. The show is 3 hrs long and Rove talked probably halfway through.
Wisconsin looking good for Bush :)
Okay. See the last two points under 1. e. I also suspect that re-enlistment while IRR there would include ADT for the duration of re-enlistment (minus IRR time that would be put off).
But it does also look different from what was offered me and my MOS (an Army NG combat type). We were absolutetly dogged to re-enlist shortly before the end of our ADT time and completely let go for IRR (except physicals, if any due) after that if no stop-loss occurred during that period.
I do see more looseness/options in that PDF file than we saw or heard of when leaving combat guard units.
Anyway, the situation for enlisted types is different from that for officers as shown in my last comment to you that was passed on by an officer.
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