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Bush Economic Polices Threaten National Security
China overtakes United States as top destination for foreign investment
The U.S. Defense Industrial Base: Will We Follow the Policies of Rising or Failing States?
Lessons of the British Empire Appear to be Lost on the United States
China Commission Report Raise Grave National Security Concerns
1 posted on 09/29/2004 10:12:41 AM PDT by Willie Green
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2 posted on 09/29/2004 10:13:27 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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Oh no not the big bad Japanese buying up America.

Er.. I mean the Chinese. How will we ever survive?

Zzzzz...


3 posted on 09/29/2004 10:15:36 AM PDT by Smogger
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To: Willie Green

sigh ...


6 posted on 09/29/2004 10:21:13 AM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, UN hating, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: Willie Green
More "the sky is falling" rhetoric.

America's greatness was never based on the volume or quality of our manufactures, on the size of our armed forces or on how many graduates in engineering and the sciences we produced.

America's greatness comes from the freedom of enterprise that we have here in this country and the innovation in product and process that it engenders.

For probably much of the last century, on a per capita basis and even on a gross basis, Germany has had more manufacturing workers producing items rated higher than US manufactures for quality, Germany has had more soldiers under arms (until 1944), and Germany has had more degrees awarded in engineering and science.

Yet we profoundly defeated Germany militarily, we have far outstripped Germany in innovation and basically completely outclassed them in every way. The same goes for Britain and France. The greatest economic and military powerhouses of old Europe could never touch us despite their possession of what you consider advantages.

7 posted on 09/29/2004 10:22:31 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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The US has almost ten times the GDP of China. A growth rate of 9.6% is still lower in absolute terms to a US growth rate of 4.4% and as economies become larger and more developed, it is impossible to maintain growth rates such as 9.6%. China is still a developing economy. Its GDP per capita is $900 compared to the US $35,200. Over one-third of its exports are to the US (20.4%) and Japan (16.9%). China also has the second highest foreign debt (debt owed to non-residents and payable in foreign currency) in the world behind Brazil and ahead of Mexico.

China is far from replacing the US as the world's lone superpower either economically or militarily.

10 posted on 09/29/2004 10:31:48 AM PDT by kabar
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“ Meanwhile, there can no longer be any debate on whether a slowdown is coming in China, in my view. The nation’s authorities have upped the ante in their efforts to bring this overheated economy under control. Fueled by the excesses of bank lending, China’s runaway investment boom threatens the balance and stability of the Chinese economy.”

From an April 30, 2004 article …

http://www.morganstanley.com/GEFdata/digests/20040430-fri.html

11 posted on 09/29/2004 10:33:25 AM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, UN hating, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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I am doing some research work for UNLV. The "students" that are all educated are coming HERE. That means those dollars are being spent on American education. American education is STILL the most highly valued and desired in every country, especially China.

China opening it's doors seemed to me almost inevitable considering it's history. Yeah, the past 50 years haven't been their high point but in general their culture is always trade and technology heavy. I worry more about China's looming energy crisis because of the modernization. They could become warlike to claim their needed oil resources at some point.


12 posted on 09/29/2004 10:35:16 AM PDT by quant5
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Over 50% of China's workforce are engaged in agriculture compared to 1.4% in the US.


15 posted on 09/29/2004 10:41:51 AM PDT by kabar
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With an overstretched military and economic vulnerability, America can be eclipsed by China in key ways

America WILL be eclipsed by China. Not a big deal, though, since lesser nations do pretty well in todays world.

23 posted on 09/29/2004 11:00:59 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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China's population will do that country in. The ratio of men to women are more than 5 to 1. So whatever happens there economically will have a short-term effect.

No nation can survive when it kills off its infant girls and cannot sustain sensible reproduction.

24 posted on 09/29/2004 11:01:08 AM PDT by 12 Gauge Mossberg (I Approved This Posting - Paid For By Mossberg, Inc.)
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Quick Willie, how much money in your wallet and what are the denominations and serial numbers? How much change in your pocket and what coins (bonus for knowing the State editions)? How about your savings/checking accounts? What about investments - what percentage rates for the year/month/week/day/last 10 minutes?

Willie - the economy is important, but you gotta stop obsessing on money; it's unhealthy and unnecessary - everything will be just fine, uunless Kerry wins, then you can head for the poor house...

29 posted on 09/29/2004 11:07:39 AM PDT by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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http://www.chicagofed.org/publications/fedletter/cflmay2004_202.pdf


30 posted on 09/29/2004 11:10:48 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Willie Green

I always felt the Chi-Coms will be the source of our next Cold War.


32 posted on 09/29/2004 11:11:16 AM PDT by Nowhere Man ("Laws are the spider webs through which the big bugs fly past and the little ones get caught.")
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The Chinese growth rate is now projected for this year at 9.6 percent. The U.S. economy is estimated to grow only at a respectable but unexciting 4.4 percent, less than half the Chinese rate.

Well this fellow missed the fact that, first the Chinese have to be on par with us; another words we going to be standing still for the next 30-40 Years for the Chinese to catch up with us and be on even level, and than we can talk about rate of growth.

Big difference...apples and oranges if you ask me and I ain't no economist of any kind!.

BTW on a different thread sometime ago, some wise guy in Europe concluded that we have to stay put for an average of 15 Years, so the Europeans can catch up with us on most levels!

You draw the conclusions!

71 posted on 09/29/2004 8:01:13 PM PDT by danmar ("The two most common elements in the Universe is Hydrogen and Stupidity" Albert Einstein)
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There is a difference between the Chinese and American business people. The Chinese executives are persuing profits for a purpose, that of making their country stronger. The American executives are persuing profits for the sole purpose of increasing their own yearly bonuses, without regard for anyone or anything else.

In 2000, Bush had promised Prosperity With A Purpose. But the business community has undermined it.


72 posted on 09/29/2004 8:01:29 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: Willie Green

I think some people have a death wish for America.


76 posted on 09/29/2004 8:14:17 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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[Defense moves that might invite nuclear strikes in retaliation] would be so wildly unacceptable in political terms in the United States itself as to be out of the question for any U.S. administration.

Any "mouse that roars" could defeat us. Let us surrender now Give up. Disarm. Let it be our generation that disgraces the Founders and more than two hundred years of brave Americans? Is that the issue?

80 posted on 09/29/2004 8:28:33 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Benedict Arnold was a hero for both sides in the same war, too!)
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"America can be eclipsed by China in key ways"... I bet he forgot that China can enslave over a billion people in a second and arm them with spit ball guns.


86 posted on 09/29/2004 10:14:48 PM PDT by Porterville (Men have learned to shoot without missing ...and I have learned to fly without perching on a twig)
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To: Willie Green
As they say (Mark Twain?), "Figures don't lie, but liars figure."

Our superpower status is not entirely based on our economy. It is based primarily on our ability to project military force anywhere in the world without anyone being able to stop us.

That said, if the U.S. were to stop all trade with China as of tomorrow, the world would abandon China and flock to the U.S. They may be growing fast, but they are growing from a sprout. We are a still growing mature oak that is getting bigger and stronger while China is still trying to get big.

The most important gauge of economic power would probably be the water guage. What percentage of Chinese homes have running water as compared to the U.S.

Shalom.

92 posted on 09/30/2004 5:47:57 AM PDT by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: Willie Green

If you slit your wrists ACROSS your arm, the blood will usually clot and the cut will almost certainly not lead to death.

The proper way to slit one's wrists is to begin at the edge of the hand and work upward, toward the elbow.

Glad to help.


99 posted on 09/30/2004 7:29:59 AM PDT by Skooz (We keep you alive to serve this ship. Row well, and live.)
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