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To: Peach
>>>An Iraqi man was at a 9/11 planning meeting. His name was Shakir. Originally it was thought he was Fedayeen.

You are making leaps that I am not willing to make based on one source. Using everything you have posted and linked to, the furthest one could logically (and honestly) get to is:

An Iraqi man was an airport greeter in Malaysia. There was a 9/11 meeting in Malaysia. Hayes says he got in the limo and went to the meeting. Mabye he was Iraqi intelligence. He was definitely not Fedayeen (so Hayes was wrong on this... according to the 9/11 commission).

I just go back to your original statement. I don't need a video... I need at least 2 independent sources... and no "commentary".

Maybe Carney really did stumble into something... maybe it is in the pages and pages of blacked out senate intel report sections. I don't know.

I'm just not ready to say "Sadaam's guy had a hand in the planning of the 9/11 attack."

Because when confronted with "prove it," I would be left with:

"An Iraqi man that lives and works in Malaysia as an airport greeter met one of the 9/11 hijackers in 2000. Supposedly he went to a pre planning meeting with him, and supposedly he was trained in Iraqi intelligence."

I need more. Even an article by Hayes AFTER the commission "investigated" this claim.

354 posted on 09/29/2004 3:33:06 PM PDT by freestyle
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To: freestyle

And I went back to your original link. Not that I think the 9/11 COmmission Report is the final arbiter on this matter. They are so compromised in part because of permitting Gorelick to remain on the Commisison that I have my doubts. As well, they are only ONE source and we've been shown time and again how often people get it wrong.

But your original link said that Shakir was AT THE 9/11 meeting. He didn't just drive them to the airport.

From your link: "Lehman was referring to a Wall Street Journal editorial from May 27 (long before the staff statement was issued, actually) saying captured documents list someone named Ahmed Hikmat Shakir as a senior officer in Saddam's Fedayeen paramilitary forces, and that someone also named Ahmed Hikmat Shakir was present at a January 2000 al-Qaeda meeting in Kuala Lumpur at which the September 11 attacks were planned."

He was AT the meeting. He wasn't Fedayeen. He was an Iraqi National as the follow-up to that statement made clear. And Jordanian intel still think he's Iraqi intelligence.

Whatever. I'm not trying to convince you. I just think you are sort of contradicting your own source. But I'm off to visit other threads :-)


356 posted on 09/29/2004 3:44:46 PM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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