Teen Suspended for Smoke Smell

WXIA-TV ATLANTA ^ | 9/27/2004 9:34:50 PM | Kay Flowers

[Area51]

27 posted on 09/29/2004 5:48:57 AM PDT by Lonely NY Conservative
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Here's the Irronic thing about this. If some student made such flimsy allegations against this Administrator and the Board acted as this Principle did, the Local Union/NEA would not only picket the school but most likely call for a district wide walk out over Unfair working conditions.

[TaxRelief]

Did they test her lungs? Did they inspect her index and middle finger tips? If someone is smoking, that will be solid evidence. A blood test would prove there is significant nicotine in her system.

How do they know she didn't smoke before she arrived on campus. The school can't control behavior outside of school.

[Vigilantcitizen]

My woodshop teacher/Lacrosse coach had the coolest water bong in the woodshop building. He didn't mind if students used it as long as they shared their weed. We could smoke right in the woodshop. This was a prep school, and I graduated in '84.

I went to high school about 35 miles west of the county in the article, in Douglas county.

This exact time of year, our shop teacher allowed us to bring our deer rifles in for a class cleaning, and I wore a 4" locking buck on my side all four years. I graduated in 1985.

[johnb838]

Agreed. Going back to the basics, the reason you don't convict people with no proof, is that then if the administrator was angry with the girl or somebody else he/she could easily falsely claim "they smelled like smoke" and punish them.

[HairOfTheDog]

She was smoking.

You're right of course... ~unless~ either of her parents smoke inside their home and she comes to school smelling like stale smoke every day.

She isn't going to smell ~that~ much like smoke from being around someone else smoking outside. There is a smell to someone who has just ~had~ a cigarette that is much stronger than just being around it. It doesn't last that strong very long.

She smokes, she got busted, and her folks should be the one with an opinion about it not the school, but I am not buyin' the 'it was a friend' story any more than my parents believed that I was just holding matches and a pack of cigarettes for a friend. ;~D

[ClintonBeGone]

That only applies in US courts of law, and then only theoretically. Schools are dictatorships, so different rules apply.

Technically, you are still allowed your constitutional due process if this is a public school.

[Adder]

Baloney.
Smoking is not a crime.
If her friends were smoking and not doing so on campus its no ones business. Why should she change her friends merely because they smoke?
The fact that she got into trouble which you base your argument upon ignores that the reason she got into trouble is bogus!
It doesn't matter if she was smoking or not. She was not caught with the "paraphanalia" nor was she caught smoking. Her guilt was inferred and conferred by this idiot of a principle and it is indefensible.

[G.Mason]

"No wonder you're lonely."

I'll say. An opus over this?

A potential juror, no doubt.

[FormerLib]

This takes stupidity to the highest level!

The administrator there “grabbed her shirt, smelled it, started smelling her hair and said, ‘You’ve been smoking,’...

Hmmm, sounds like assault to me, sue 'em!

[ladylib]

She smelled of smoke. She didn't have any cigarettes on her. She wasn't seen smoking. End of story.

[unixfox]

...we assume if you smell strongly of smoke, you’ve been smoking,” he said.

If you have blood on your shirt we assume you may have killed someone.

[Just another Joe]

Letting their idiocy run rampant.

[Malsua]

And if the kid stokes the wood burner before school? That Definately will make you smell like smoke.

[Don Simmons]

"The administrator there grabbed her shirt..."

Anyone grabs my daughter's shirt and they're gonna get their ass handed to them.

[brewcrew]

Smoking is not a crime.

It is if it is being done by a minor and can be proven. In this case, it cannot be.

[unixfox]

Do you think the police will start pulling people over for random cigarette checks?

Not only do I believe this will happen in the near future, but I also believe it will be a FEDERAL crime. Just wait, the stupidity of the populace will allow it to happen.

[Cultural Jihad]

Teen Suspended for Smoke Smell

File the story under: "Local Issue of Interest to Self-Governing Locals - Carpetbaggers, Scalawags & Busybody Outsiders Need Not Apply"

[PeterPrinciple]

The amazing thing to me is that this is national news.

I am glad this was not true when I grew up. The incident where we threw a bag of manure through the librarian's car windshield and were known locally as the Manure Mob would surely have been discussed nationally and probably harmed my psyche. (I felt bad enough the way it was. It wasn't suppose to go through the windshield, only remain on it.)

[TaxRelief]

...he has been influenced by a religious doctrine called "liberal fundamentalism".

You are absolutely correct. These are belief systems and not founded in science. They are religions and should be treated as such.

[brewcrew]

...but I also believe it will be a FEDERAL crime.

But where will they get all that tax revenue after it's no longer legal to sell it?