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A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Girl
NY Times ^ | September 28, 2004 | MICHELLE YORK

Posted on 09/28/2004 5:52:14 AM PDT by Pharmboy

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To: Pharmboy

I saw a guy on a morning show not long ago with his dog...the dog would scratch the canvas of paint and the owner is selling his works all over in NY galleries.
It's all pitiful I tell ya....

Anyone can say they are an artist these days. I went to an art show last year and some "artist" had put a real cow tongue on a piece of butcher paper on the floor and it was dripping down the paper....To many, that was art....

I must say, I don't see them when I'm walking down the halls at Walt Disney Studios. The artists I work with are truly talented, thank God.


41 posted on 09/28/2004 6:48:24 AM PDT by sonserae
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To: Pharmboy
Very good for a 4-year-old.

The parents charging $6000 makes me think the art crowd is absolutely out of its mind. Then again, there is no hint that the doodlings - er, paintings - are actually selling for anywhere near that much ($40k for 24 paintings is under $500/per, still pretty significant), though they may after this hype.

42 posted on 09/28/2004 6:48:53 AM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
There is nothing special about this. Any 4 year old with access to paint could & would do it. Maybe you would be interested in a set of ceramic plates that my grandchildren decorated?
43 posted on 09/28/2004 6:48:56 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Vic3O3

Guess we had better start saving our kid's works of art!

Semper Fi


44 posted on 09/28/2004 6:49:44 AM PDT by dd5339 (A sheepdog, a warrior, someone who is walking the hero's path.)
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To: TheBigB
Here's my kids latest entitled "Red X"


45 posted on 09/28/2004 6:52:13 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance ( "Stay safe in the "sandbox", cuz!)
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To: wideawake
She is not a prodigy - she is a little girl who has a nice eye for color.

Exactly.

46 posted on 09/28/2004 6:53:51 AM PDT by Conservative4Ever (With Rather doing all this backpedaling...he should be wearing pedal pushers.)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

I like it. It has a hint of post-modernism infused with the spirit of surrealism and just a dash of colonialism with a side order of polymorphism.


47 posted on 09/28/2004 6:54:10 AM PDT by TheBigB (Terrorists aren't afraid of "nuance.")
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To: hopespringseternal
Really? Then so does my 3 year old. And every other small child I have ever seen play with paint.

From what I've seen, the kids typically end up with a few isolated splotches, or else they mix up their colors until it's all brown. Sometimes, accidentally, a kid will leave things looking pretty good. And sometimes, rarely, there's a little kid who has some concrete and consistent sense of how the colors work, and how to do things with them.

Like I said -- I wouldn't pay thousands for one of these things, but they do reflect something out of the ordinary for a little kid. If her parents and fans don't ruin her, she might turn out to be a gifted artist.

48 posted on 09/28/2004 6:54:42 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Ditter

To each his own. I really like it. It looks professional and deliberate not simply "playing".

If others like it and its value increases indefinitely than it is a good investment. If you just like having on your wall because it brings you pleasure, it is a good purchase. If you see it as a joyful creation of a child that you place on the refridgerator with a magnet and then discard (or place in a cardboard box in the attic) once the child has grown so what?

Either way, at least this girl can go to college.


49 posted on 09/28/2004 6:55:15 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Politically, Saudi Arabia is 18th century France with 16th Century Spain's flow of gold and no art)
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To: r9etb
she might turn out to be a gifted artist.

Hopefully. She might also turn out to have had her career peak at the age of 4. ;)

50 posted on 09/28/2004 6:58:01 AM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: Fierce Allegiance
My coffee just went everywhere...what a mess. LOLOLOLOLOL

Red

51 posted on 09/28/2004 6:58:24 AM PDT by Conservative4Ever (With Rather doing all this backpedaling...he should be wearing pedal pushers.)
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To: manic4organic
I (still) don't get abstract art.

If you haven't already, read The Fountainhead by Ayn Rand. The thought processes behind the promotion of abstract art over real art are well dissected within. ;)

52 posted on 09/28/2004 6:59:22 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: KellyAdmirer
She might also turn out to have had her career peak at the age of 4

Ayt age 7, she'll be hangin around the coffeehouses all night, drunk on pedialyte, screming, "I usedta BE somebody in this damn town!" :-)

53 posted on 09/28/2004 6:59:59 AM PDT by TheBigB (Terrorists aren't afraid of "nuance.")
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

I have been an artist for many years. As a teacher told me long ago, it often takes two people to paint a painting, one to paint it and another one to tell them when to stop.

What do you want to bet her artist father tells her when to stop.


54 posted on 09/28/2004 7:01:51 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: wideawake
She is not a prodigy - she is a little girl who has a nice eye for color.

I disagree with you on this -- this is precisely why she might be a prodigy. You're mistakenly equating training with innate ability. A "nice eye for color" is what separates a Rubens from the schlocks who paint copies of Rubens.

Mozart wasn't a prodigy because he was trained -- if training was all it took, there'd be a lot more Mozarts around. Mozart was a prodigy because he had the ability to form the music in his head, and make it come out right on paper.

Same with artists -- you or I could take art classes all f'n day long, and we might achieve some sort of technical proficiency; however, "real" artists also have that innate sense of color and space and mental whatever-it-is that goes beyond technique.

Or, closer to home, if you've ever had kids in a dance class, you'll have seen -- even at 3 years old -- most kids who obviously don't "have it," and a few kids who obviously do.

The training is obviously important for a prodigy to achieve her potential. But there's something needed before that. Maybe this little girl has it. Maybe she doesn't.

55 posted on 09/28/2004 7:05:36 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Ditter

I'll beleive that. In fact, I bet he even suggests what color to use and where to put it.

But, I would add that it takes at least 3 people the third being the one who appreciates it (and hopefully has a bank account large enough for the artist to feel appreciated).


56 posted on 09/28/2004 7:06:47 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Politically, Saudi Arabia is 18th century France with 16th Century Spain's flow of gold and no art)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
If you haven't already, read The Fountainhead by Ayn Rand. The thought processes behind the promotion of abstract art over real art are well dissected within. ;)

Yet another area where Ayn Rand is all wet.....

57 posted on 09/28/2004 7:07:09 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Pharmboy

The emperor's new art.


58 posted on 09/28/2004 7:07:16 AM PDT by OHelix
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For some strange reason, I expected an article about "Prince", with unseen photos from his boyhood.


59 posted on 09/28/2004 7:08:40 AM PDT by Jakarta ex-pat
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To: Fierce Allegiance
I forgot to mention, mine is titled, "Tortured Night of the Screaming Soul, Railing Against the Atrocities of the Iraq War"

At first, it was called, "Happy Stick Guy." But my agent said to try again...

60 posted on 09/28/2004 7:09:42 AM PDT by TheBigB (Terrorists aren't afraid of "nuance.")
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