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Bush: Militarizing Border Won't Stop Illegal Deluge
Newsmax.com ^ | Monday, Sept. 27, 2004 11:07 p.m. EDT

Posted on 09/27/2004 11:40:43 PM PDT by Robert Lomax

The U.S. has no plans to deploy troops along the Mexican border to stanch the deluge of illegal aliens currently pouring into the country at the rate of 3 million per year, President Bush said in an interview broadcast on Monday.

"As the governor of Texas, I was very aware of this issue," Bush told Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly.

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"There is a long border, that makes it hard to control. We have beefed up places along the border to try to stop" the flow, he said. When told that his policy didn't seem to be working, Bush insisted, "It’s working a little better.

"They're doing a pretty good job down in Arizona, which is the main border crossing. ... I think there's a thousand more border patrol agents along the border. We’re modernizing border techniques, we’re using better surveillance methods to stop this crossing at the border."

The president contended, however, that illegal immigration was driven primarily by the economic realities of the region.

"If you can make 50 cents in the interior of Mexico and five bucks in the interior of the United States, you're coming for the five bucks," he explained.

"I happen to believe the best way to enhance the border is to have temporary-worker cards available for people," he said. "I think the long-term solution for this issue on our border is for Mexico to grow a middle class. That's why I believe in NAFTA."

When warned that "a lot of people are not going to like that answer," Bush told O'Reilly, "Well it’s a, a truthful answer."


TOPICS: Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; bush; bushamnesty; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; issues; spottheretread; terrorism
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To: JackelopeBreeder; Travis McGee
I think he's Arne Fufkin with a new screen name.

Agreed.

741 posted on 09/28/2004 9:44:13 PM PDT by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Robert Lomax

Ok...

If you fine every hospital that treats an illegal $1 million per patient per incident.

If you fine every school that educates an illegal or illegal kid $1 million per student per year.

If you fine every employer that hires an illegal $1 million per worker per year.

If you punish every landlord that rents to an illegal by the confiscation of their property.

The illegal immigration problem will solve itself illegal immigrants will deport themselves. This will not require militarizing the border. All this will require is backbone from a President who - on this issue - completely lacks one.


742 posted on 09/28/2004 9:44:24 PM PDT by applemac_g4 (Oderint dum metuat!)
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To: JackelopeBreeder

Probably. I pity anyone living within his immediate range: the guy is a rageaholic.


743 posted on 09/28/2004 9:45:50 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Jim Robinson
It's an economic problem.

No, it's a long-standing cultural problem with Mexico. It’s a culture of intractable corruption which renders their legal system of “payoffs and bribes” wholly incapable of supporting a safe environment for business investment, and free enterprise. And cultural problems don't just suddenly go away; it takes a few generations to change it.

744 posted on 09/28/2004 9:49:10 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: Travis McGee; yarddog; FITZ; wardaddy; sneakypete; yall
yarddog; FITZ; wardaddy; sneakypete

After reading much of this thread I almost feel like doing a Sneaky Pete and just abandoning it. If a conservative web site is full of people willing to sell out American for cheap labor, I think the country is truly surely dead. It just hasn't been buried yet.

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Amen bro. Sometimes, I feel like packing it in. A country that won't even protect its borders in wartime won't last long, nor, perhaps, should it.
-Travis-

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Good grief..

The sky is NOT falling chicken littles.. Granted, illegal immigration is a problem, but its far from being a major threat. -- Yet.

Do you guy's REALLY believe the security of the USA is compromised by a few million Mexican illegals working here? Get a grip.
745 posted on 09/28/2004 9:49:38 PM PDT by tpaine (No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
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To: Stu Cohen
KNOWINGLY BREAKING FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAWS.

Really? Prove it. Beyond a reasonable doubt. In a court of law.

Then try to get a law passed that crossing a border without authorization is a capital crime.

746 posted on 09/28/2004 9:50:09 PM PDT by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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To: Travis McGee; yarddog; FITZ; wardaddy; sneakypete; yall
Yeah guys. Just forget about it until buildings start getting blown up.
747 posted on 09/28/2004 9:50:48 PM PDT by radicalamericannationalist (Kurtz had the right answer but the wrong location.)
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To: Travis McGee; Marine Inspector

Tonight marks the Harvest Moon in our old haunts in the Far East. Think of the fun we're missing.


748 posted on 09/28/2004 9:51:08 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: Jim Robinson
I suspect he never had either one of your votes to begin with.

You suspect wrong. I voted for him in 2000, but never again, he lost me along with many other of his former supporters.

749 posted on 09/28/2004 9:54:53 PM PDT by janetgreen (CALIFORNIA/MEXIFORNIA - ILLEGAL ALIEN PARADISE)
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To: radicalamericannationalist

Rest assured, 'rad', when & if the buildings blow, and it if can be attributed to lax border policies, political heads will roll.

That's the american way. We don't chop heads on maybe's & if's.


750 posted on 09/28/2004 10:01:15 PM PDT by tpaine (No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
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To: tpaine
I'm sure that will be comforting to the dead. And the government living up to its responsibility to protect the border during a war isn't chopping heads, at least not anyone except hose who've made a living off breaking the law.
751 posted on 09/28/2004 10:03:35 PM PDT by radicalamericannationalist (Kurtz had the right answer but the wrong location.)
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To: TLI
some p-dog shooter "interdiction."

Yes, let's make it government policy to intentionally blast unarmed civilians to Kingdom Come.

Riiiiight.

752 posted on 09/28/2004 10:04:06 PM PDT by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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To: TLI
How wide, pray tell, is the Korean peninsula?

Keep in mind that the lower 48 States have a perimeter of approximately 18,500 miles. You want to set up a DMZ along all 18,500 miles of America's frontier? You go and pay for the million full-time federal employees that will take. (740,000 actual guards, 260,000 support).

753 posted on 09/28/2004 10:06:25 PM PDT by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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To: Chemist_Geek
One day, those of us who live on the border may decide that this is a capital crime. Our home is rapidly becoming the world's biggest open air dumpster and porta-potty.

Be glad HTML doesn't have a "smell" tag.

At any given moment there are hundreds of similar sites all over Cochise County. Our government does nothing; the mess gets cleaned up by volunteers. Our local public health officials are insisting on full hazmat procedures.

754 posted on 09/28/2004 10:09:00 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: mdmathis6

>Kerry will hold his nose and announce major immigration
>initiatives that will catch Bush flatfooted.

I can't possibly imagine that Kerry would do such a thing. If he were to do it, however, I think your 5%-7% predicted swing would be a mere shadow of the voters who would switch away from Bush to Kerry.

Given the supermajority of voters who say that they are seriously disturbed by this issue, it would be a winning strategy for Kerry.


755 posted on 09/28/2004 10:09:29 PM PDT by applemac_g4 (Oderint dum metuat!)
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To: applemac_g4
If you fine every hospital that treats an illegal $1 million per patient per incident.

Uh, right. Call John Edwards - I believe you've found an even faster way to destroy American health care than he's come up with!

In a fevered fantasy ER, not too far in the future...

Gasp... pant... "Help me, I've got shooting pains in my left arm and jaw, and there's an elephant on my chest..."

"Papers please!"

"Ah, your papers are not in order. We will not treat you. The police have been summoned."


756 posted on 09/28/2004 10:11:24 PM PDT by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Be glad HTML doesn't have a "smell" tag.

I've smelled worse.

And this is different from any holler in Kentucky, exactly how? Oh, yeah, that's right - you get to blame Mexicans for it!

757 posted on 09/28/2004 10:12:57 PM PDT by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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To: radicalamericannationalist

Is your next lecture on how we owe it to 'the children'?


758 posted on 09/28/2004 10:16:00 PM PDT by tpaine (No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
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To: Chemist_Geek

>In a fevered fantasy ER, not too far in the future...
>Gasp... pant... "Help me, I've got shooting pains in my left
>arm and jaw, and there's an elephant on my chest..."
>"Papers please!"
>"Ah, your papers are not in order. We will not treat you. The
>police have been summoned."

That's fine with me. You want to pay for the guy's bypass? You go right ahead.

Obviously, there will be one doctor and one hospital who will choose, for misguided reasons such as yours, not to comply. After the first such incident and fine the hospital adminsitrator will take steps to come into compliance.

People will not come to a land where they are assured of unemployment, homelessness, no education, and no medical care.


759 posted on 09/28/2004 10:16:30 PM PDT by applemac_g4 (Oderint dum metuat!)
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To: tpaine
Yeah, terrorism is a joking matter. Laugh it up.
760 posted on 09/28/2004 10:17:15 PM PDT by radicalamericannationalist (Kurtz had the right answer but the wrong location.)
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