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Bush: Militarizing Border Won't Stop Illegal Deluge
Newsmax.com ^ | Monday, Sept. 27, 2004 11:07 p.m. EDT

Posted on 09/27/2004 11:40:43 PM PDT by Robert Lomax

The U.S. has no plans to deploy troops along the Mexican border to stanch the deluge of illegal aliens currently pouring into the country at the rate of 3 million per year, President Bush said in an interview broadcast on Monday.

"As the governor of Texas, I was very aware of this issue," Bush told Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly.

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"There is a long border, that makes it hard to control. We have beefed up places along the border to try to stop" the flow, he said. When told that his policy didn't seem to be working, Bush insisted, "It’s working a little better.

"They're doing a pretty good job down in Arizona, which is the main border crossing. ... I think there's a thousand more border patrol agents along the border. We’re modernizing border techniques, we’re using better surveillance methods to stop this crossing at the border."

The president contended, however, that illegal immigration was driven primarily by the economic realities of the region.

"If you can make 50 cents in the interior of Mexico and five bucks in the interior of the United States, you're coming for the five bucks," he explained.

"I happen to believe the best way to enhance the border is to have temporary-worker cards available for people," he said. "I think the long-term solution for this issue on our border is for Mexico to grow a middle class. That's why I believe in NAFTA."

When warned that "a lot of people are not going to like that answer," Bush told O'Reilly, "Well it’s a, a truthful answer."


TOPICS: Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; bush; bushamnesty; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; issues; spottheretread; terrorism
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To: Stu Cohen
The same exact scenario happened to my best friend.

And it is ludicrous to even try to defend the mess created by what amounts to open borders. Those who do are willfully ignorant or dishonestly defending a selfish bias or agenda.

...or, OK, maybe some just need to come down here and observe it for themselves.


(But... ; ) I think you're making a huge mistake by not voting Bush. The time to exercise your power and push you favorite candidate is before the primaries. If he doesn't get to the general, then accept that you share the country with others and take the best compromise you possibly can get.)
541 posted on 09/28/2004 5:29:43 PM PDT by Trinity_Tx (Most of our so-called reasoning consists in finding arguments for going on believin as we already do)
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To: tpaine
You can't keep a bunch of drunks off your property? Must be a tough life to be a victim.

Would you say that to the faces of my neighbors, who lost their 7 year old to a drunken illegal alien? They'd rip your head off.

542 posted on 09/28/2004 5:30:05 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Jim Robinson
I don't believe that many people are coming across. At that rate, there wouldn't be anyone left in Mexico.

Mexico has an extremely high birth rate --- and while a generation for Americans is about 30 years, it's about 15 years over there --- our population doubled in the last 50 years and much of that doubling was from immigration from Mexico. We can't keep absorbing impoverished people at the rates we've been seeing.

543 posted on 09/28/2004 5:30:33 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: ApesForEvolution

Indeed.

Don't get me wrong - I think there is a mandate against illegal immigration. I just don't think it's a mandate for draconian tactics - land mines, military engaging border crossers, or even a 1500 mile wall.


544 posted on 09/28/2004 5:31:29 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: cyborg
Why are millions of people trying to leave Mexico and what is Vicente Fox doing to cause that?

Vicente Fox is doing nothing to improve their lives in Mexico because he wants them to leave --- his economic plan for his country was for as many to leave as possible, get to the USA and send money back home which he figures filters up to the elite class.

545 posted on 09/28/2004 5:32:02 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: HitmanNY

The problem is that there's no mandate for doing anything effective about the problem, because effective measures would inconvenience the folks who oppose illegal immigration in the abstract.


546 posted on 09/28/2004 5:32:38 PM PDT by Poohbah (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room.)
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To: tpaine
You can't keep a bunch of drunks off your property?

You are half correct. I can keep American drunks off my property, but not Mexican drunks. They are a protected species (hey, they save us 25 cents a quart on strawberries).

You apparently missed the thread were another of California's fine cities stopped random checkpoints because they were finding too many unlicensed illegals.

You think they would stop the checkpoints if they found a bunch of American's driving drunk?

Must be a tough life to be a victim.

America's border is geting raped on a daily basis. Why don't you take a poll and find out if American's feel that it's tough being victimized by the illegal invastion of our nation.

It's not just about me, though I am on the front lines.

547 posted on 09/28/2004 5:33:04 PM PDT by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
The U.S. has no plans to deploy troops along the Mexican border to stanch the deluge of illegal aliens currently pouring into the country at the rate of 3 million per year, President Bush said in an interview broadcast on Monday... And I have no plans to vote for this meathead.

He has also lost my vote because of his refusal to stop this invasion.

548 posted on 09/28/2004 5:33:09 PM PDT by janetgreen (CALIFORNIA/MEXIFORNIA - ILLEGAL ALIEN PARADISE)
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To: Robert Lomax

If you can make 50 cents in the interior of Mexico and five bucks in the interior of the United States, you're coming for the five bucks," he explained.



No, Mr. President, not if you had the cojones to control the border. Maybe then the Mexicans would stay home and fight that worthless government they have. Change Mexico from the inside don't export Mexico's cancer to US.


549 posted on 09/28/2004 5:33:41 PM PDT by TomasUSMC
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To: Poohbah

Aren't you the person that said the GOP wont do anything for us because we haven't done anything for them?


550 posted on 09/28/2004 5:33:46 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: HitmanNY
Don't get me wrong - I think there is a mandate against illegal immigration. I just don't think it's a mandate for draconian tactics - land mines, military engaging border crossers, or even a 1500 mile wall.

By any means necessary.

We've already asked politely.

Maybe we should have begged Saddam a little more too?

551 posted on 09/28/2004 5:34:11 PM PDT by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
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To: janetgreen

He never had your vote to begin with, as you were a very vocal Brigadier.


552 posted on 09/28/2004 5:34:17 PM PDT by Poohbah (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room.)
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To: Poohbah

Yes.


553 posted on 09/28/2004 5:34:20 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: Poohbah
Until CNN showed little Pablo's guts hanging out of his torso over morning breakfast...

I don't watch CNN.

554 posted on 09/28/2004 5:34:37 PM PDT by LowOiL (Christian and proud of it !)
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To: Barlowmaker
You are howling at the moon.

Well, I think a little higher of you but if you insist on denigrating yourself, go ahead.

555 posted on 09/28/2004 5:34:47 PM PDT by raybbr
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Aren't you the person that said the GOP wont do anything for us because we haven't done anything for them?

Yeah. You know something? It's still true. The folks concerned about illegal immigration haven't done jack-s**t for the GOP. It's too much like work, after all.

556 posted on 09/28/2004 5:35:14 PM PDT by Poohbah (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room.)
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To: FITZ

I agree. It's basically an economic problem.

And I'm on record as being opposed to illegal immigration and or socialist giveaway programs and their resulting high cost of taxation.


557 posted on 09/28/2004 5:35:14 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: TomasUSMC
If you can make 50 cents in the interior of Mexico and five bucks in the interior of the United States, you're coming for the five bucks," he explained.

When Bush said that, he invited the entire third world in here.

When he made that comment, the entire room where I was located got down right ugly.

558 posted on 09/28/2004 5:35:28 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Stu Cohen

There is no public support for your 'any means necessary' standard.

That's what I have been saying all along.


559 posted on 09/28/2004 5:35:48 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: janetgreen

Cry me a river. I suspect he never had either one of your votes to begin with.


560 posted on 09/28/2004 5:36:33 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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