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Bush: Militarizing Border Won't Stop Illegal Deluge
Newsmax.com ^ | Monday, Sept. 27, 2004 11:07 p.m. EDT

Posted on 09/27/2004 11:40:43 PM PDT by Robert Lomax

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This situation is NOT acceptable! Our border and port security, as well a dire need for a headcount 'illegals in America' needs to be our #1 Domestic Priority right now!

We're at freaking war with suiciders for God's sake...!!!!!

141 posted on 09/28/2004 11:59:10 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: ApesForEvolution
Wow, it really is all about borders, language and culture

For me it's not. If it were millions of British streaming in illegally, I'd be just as pissed. I don't really care about language or culture as I speak several languages. I'm also into different things, so a whole bunch of King Taco restaurants doesn't bother me any more or less than a a whole bunch of O'Malley's pubs, Korean BBQs, Japanese Shabu Shabu restaurants, etc., would.

It depends on how you are getting here. If you are coming here illegally, I don't want to have to pay for you. Regardless of where you come from.

142 posted on 09/28/2004 11:59:24 AM PDT by Bella_Bru (It's for the children = It takes a village)
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To: gubamyster

Well, it's a problem to me. I do not advocate property confiscation. Period.

And I agree with eliminating the incentives.


143 posted on 09/28/2004 12:06:22 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: F16Fighter

I oppose IRS confiscation of property.


144 posted on 09/28/2004 12:07:05 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: citizen

Show me your papers please? What happened to the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated??


145 posted on 09/28/2004 12:10:24 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Wolfie

And I oppose asset forfeiture. I'm not about to oppose it on one hand and favor it on the other.


146 posted on 09/28/2004 12:11:50 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: StoneColdGOP

No, we should end property confiscation, not advocate more of same.


147 posted on 09/28/2004 12:13:04 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

I'm waiting to see what Bush does after he's re-elected. If the border problems persist, I'm confident conservatives will rise up and put the heat on their Congresscritters and the administration. Conservatives need to fight the GOP establishment on this volatile issue and not lose their cool and waste a vote on the LP or CP. Bush needs to get a clue about the borders though.


148 posted on 09/28/2004 12:15:06 PM PDT by 12 Gauge Mossberg (I Approved This Posting - Paid For By Mossberg, Inc.)
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To: azhenfud

Right. I'd like to see the source of "3 million" illegals per year please.


149 posted on 09/28/2004 12:17:46 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: 12 Gauge Mossberg

If we don't get blown up, we'll be there, unarmed and defenseless to a suicide bomber, holding our noses and voting for Bush...


150 posted on 09/28/2004 12:20:15 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Dry up the jobs and the taxpayer assistance, and they'll deport themselves

The taxpayer assistance is the key.

151 posted on 09/28/2004 12:20:21 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
And I have no plans to vote for this meathead.

In order for us to gauge what a devestating loss of support this will be ... did you vote for him in 2000?

152 posted on 09/28/2004 12:24:58 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: Jim Robinson
"I oppose IRS confiscation of property."

I'm no fan of the IRS either, but how about in the case of knowingly trafficking illegal invaders and stealth terrorists over the border?

In the context of 9/11, our government has absconded its duty to button down the borders.

This is A method of SOME enforcement.

153 posted on 09/28/2004 12:25:30 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: Jim Robinson

They're not just coming from Mexico bud, try the entire Central American countries. Guatemala. Honduras. Believe me, this is true. Bush looses me on this. Very frustrating. If kerry wanted to cut into Bush's base, deep, all he'd have to do is say he will build a friggen wall the entire length of our southern border. He won't do it either. What the f^%%# is it gonna take?


154 posted on 09/28/2004 12:27:20 PM PDT by Atlanta ( Be the hammer or the anvil...)
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To: Jim Robinson; Marine Inspector

Apprehensions by Border Patrol this fiscal year:

Mexico - 927,582; Honduras - 17,862; El Salvador - 12,985; Guatemala - 8425; Brazil - 6,026; Nicaragua - 1,073; China - 618; Ecuador - 420

Mind you, these are only apprehensions, not a projection of the total number of illegal crossings.

Marine Inspector is more qualified to estimate the percentage of apprehensions vs. total crossings than I, so I defer to MI.


155 posted on 09/28/2004 12:28:50 PM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Bella_Bru

Maybe some families are that large, and I realize there are sometimes entire families that come here illegally, but I suspect most of the illegal aliens we're complaining about here are young able bodied working people and probably mostly males.

By the way, I'm from a family of 9 children.


156 posted on 09/28/2004 12:30:38 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: F16Fighter

I'm opposed to confiscation of property period.


157 posted on 09/28/2004 12:31:23 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Atlanta

According to the statistics linked above, looks like way more than the lion's share comes from Mexico.


158 posted on 09/28/2004 12:33:38 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: azhenfud

I heard last night that MI estimates we only apprehend 5% - 10% of the border crossers. Using the 1,000,000 number of apprehensions you mention, that would mean, according to MI's apprehension rates, somewhere between 5,000,000 to 10,000,000 come across every year. At this rate there will be no able bodied working class people left in Mexico within a couple more years. I think something is drastically wrong with the numbers and rates. Would like to see some actual stats and or reliable numbers.


159 posted on 09/28/2004 12:40:20 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
Do you believe it's possible that 25,000 people from Islamic nations could have illegaly invaded America by violating our sovereign borders in the last 12 months? Could the number possibly be twice as much? Could it be only 10%, or 2,500? Would 1,000 be too many or acceptable? Each one could be a suicide bomb or playground massacre, potentially, for all we know...I know the demand for "Tobacco" discount retail outlets is high and growing, but this, I believe, is very dangerous. Especially with Madrid in our rear-view mirror...
160 posted on 09/28/2004 12:41:25 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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