Posted on 09/27/2004 9:48:51 PM PDT by watchout
First Print Story on the Outing of Congressman David Dreier on the Internet
LOS ANGELES, Sept. 27 /PRNewswire/ -- San Gabriel Valley Congressman David Dreier is the latest GOP member to be outed as a homosexual Republican by Mike Rogers, former development director for the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, and his blogactive.com Web site. Doug Ireland, longtime radical political journalist, media critic and self-described purveyor of "investigative opinion," defends the outing and assesses Dreier's political future in this first discussion of the outing in the print media. Already Ireland's story has caused a stir. Several radio stations have called Ireland for comment and many are debating whether Ireland should have kept the story on the Internet. "I have not the slightest doubt that the outing campaign initiated by Mike Rogers' blogactive.com and supported by Raw Story's reporting is accurate in exposing Dreier," Ireland insists. "Moreover, in the course of reporting this story, I talked to a gay member of Congress who has observed Dreier in gay behavior and is 100% sure, as this member told me, that Dreier is gay. And, clearly, Dreier's demagogic political homophobia justifies reporting the outing campaign targeting him."
Another straw man.
I meant your post number 244.
Care to enlighten me now...?
I'm the kind of Christian that doesn't feel compelled to go around telling everybody what a good Christian I am.
I think I made it pretty clear that I pretending to speak from or for God, unlike you.
I take it you don't want to answer that question, right?
How so? The National Gay and Lesbian Task Force is spreading this information to try to weaken Dreier's support. They've also done this without offering a shred of evidence.
You are eagerly 1. believing them, and 2. trying to convince others to stop supporting Dreier.
I'd say the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force would be quite pleased at your actions on this thread.
In this last post of yours, you commit the Genetic fallacy.
I also submit to you that the George W. Bush you claim to hold in such high esteem is more like the person you have tried to paint me as tonight than he is like you..what do you think of them there banannas?!
I think you'd love to think that, but you have no way of knowing that.
In your last post you also commit the fallacy known as "guilt by association".
You do commit the fallacies of "guilt by association" and the "straw man" argument.
Also, there seems to be an implied third fallacy known as "poisoning the well".
Please, play fair with Howlin...she can't handle the truth...
Oh my.... a mite touchy about your jumping smartly to do the bidding of the Gay and Lesbian faction on the left.
Truth hurts...
You commit the "straw man" and "guilt by association" fallacies, respectively.
You commit the "pretending to be an intellectual" fallacy. Have you got anything to offer other than a stream of posts with nothing but cut and paste from a debate site?
ad hominem.
patriciaruth wrote:
"Who's running you out of the party? Do you think if everyone in it doesn't belong to your particular Christian sect that you are not welcome in the GOP?"
I felt compelled to put my two cents worth due to the following post:
Post87:
"No, I am not wrong; the GOP has NEVER EVER been about telling people what they can and cannot do in their bedrooms until the Holy Rollers took over back in the '80s.
'
'They can't be gone soon enough."
-This is not the first time that I have read similar and sometimes more virulent posts berating Christians and wishing them gone from the GOP. The writers usually refer to Christians as either "Right Wing Extremists" or "Holly Rollers". if I over reacted I am sorry but enough is enough!
-I don't belong to any sect, I am just a Christian, I only used the term "Holly Roller" because that is what the poster used. I was an independent voting Republican and joined the Republican party in the 80's so I took the comment personally. My husband has been a Republican since the 60's.
I believe in the Bible, I try not to be offensive or self righteous but I am not making any apologies for my believes. I like to prayerfully share the Word with anyone, in love and kindness, when the opportunity arises.
As for your last paragraph, "What other party is there for us to vote with that has a shred of hope of effecting improvement in the culture via the political route?"
This is why I joined and remain in the Republican party.
And you're too ridiculous to waste further time on...
Good night.
argumentum ad hominem.
This might actually be a better book for you...
argumentum ad hominem.
This might actually be a better book for you...
(see chapter 6)
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