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To: KantianBurke; unspun
Dumping ur wife and kids, dressing in drag, gun grabbing and other liberal nonsense are wrong. Period

Put that crap aside, will ya? The man lifted up the largest city in the United States after a major tragedy.

He's not running yet; he's trying to help Bush.

Quit pissin' in the Cheerios.

34 posted on 09/27/2004 6:53:17 PM PDT by sinkspur ("John Kerry's gonna win on his juices. "--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: sinkspur

Hello Sink. Its a legitimate point to make as Guiliani ain't making these appearences for his health. Dollars to donuts, he wants the top spot in 08. Very well. He is certainly going about it intelligently enough first winning IOU's with the GOP top brass and trumpting his credentials as "America's Mayor." All I've written so far is to point this out and to go the next step - namely his compatibility in his totality for the GOP's big seat. And what I see I don't like. And no I will not act like a NOW nag and give him a pass. Character counts. It did with Bubba. It does with Bush and it will with Guiliani.


38 posted on 09/27/2004 6:59:39 PM PDT by KantianBurke (Am back but just for a short while)
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To: sinkspur; KantianBurke
Put that crap aside, will ya? The man lifted up the largest city in the United States after a major tragedy. He's not running yet; he's trying to help Bush. Quit pissin' in the Cheerios.

Please esplain, ss, exactly what damage is being caused by calling a spade a spade, and a social liberal, social -ist by the appropriate terms.

God bless Giuliani for supporting W. God bless him with the wisdom to either change his "free government" ways, or at least the wisdom not to run for President. He will be severely opposed if he tries to do that.

49 posted on 09/27/2004 7:36:56 PM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: sinkspur
Put that crap aside, will ya? The man lifted up the largest city in the United States after a major tragedy. He's not running yet; he's trying to help Bush. Quit pissin' in the Cheerios.

I don't think anyone is trying to disrespect or diminish Rudy's heroism or his contribution from his current role, but assuming that he is grooming for a 2008 presidential bid, remember the Peter Principle -- Too often we reward great performance with an inappropriate (and emotionally charged) promotion to the next level, without truly considering the demands of the new role and measuring against the objective criteria we would normally insist upon.

IMO, if we are to make progress toward taking back America to conservative values, then we must follow up in 2008 with someone MORE conservative than Bush, not LESS. Let's not let the emotion of 911 cloud our good judgement on that.

78 posted on 09/27/2004 10:01:24 PM PDT by Murph
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