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To: Havoc; 1rudeboy; Toddsterpatriot
You're more willing to defend profit than you are to defend an American worker. you , we're kicking you out on the street and giving your job to pedro for a 5th of what you make a year.

If an American walks into the office and says, "Mr. Poohbah, I can do the same job that Havoc's doing, at the same quality, and I'll do it for 10% less," I'm going to give him a chance. If he's right, you're going to be fired.

I suppose you'd demand a law forbidding that American from underbidding you for your job.

Bottom line: if your job can be done for 20% of what you're getting paid, then you are way too expensive to keep employed. Either figure out how to provide five times the value-added that Pedro can, or find a job that Pedro can't do at any price.

Because I've watched it pan out from the front row over here in reality land where more than half my coworkers have already been given their seperation papers and most haven't got jobs and only one so far has qualified to go back to school. One.

Sounds like you work with some real meatheads. What's that saying about birds of a feather?

And your policy bs is what's pulling the rug out from under me. I have a dream - bang - free trader intervention, I now have seperation papers as I'm evicted from something I worked hard for.

IIRC, you work for EDS. News flash: your employer's headed into the ground--word on the street is that the Navy's going to sue y'all for submitting a fraudulently low bid on NMCI, and the resulting penalties are going to bankrupt the firm. You're going to get canned sooner or later.

I've been fired multiple times. In a few cases, the job in question went to Mexico. I've dealt with it.

I've had enough abuse in my life from you types. I'm done with it. It's straighten up time. My prediction is simple. This president kills free trade or ends up suspending habius in his next term.

Why, Havoc...that sounds like a threat of violent insurrection. I think I'll contact the Department of Homeland Security and recommend that they invite themselves over to your house for a chat.

101 posted on 09/28/2004 4:43:56 AM PDT by Poohbah (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room.)
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To: Poohbah
Every job (in Sales) I have ever lost, I lost because someone could do the same job more cheaply. That's the problem with Sales, if you're good, eventually you make too much money. It's better for the company to can you and keep the clients that don't flee.

When it happened, I simply shrugged my shoulders. I certainly didn't show-up on a Larouche thread complaining about "profiteers."

103 posted on 09/28/2004 4:55:11 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Poohbah
Why, Havoc...that sounds like a threat of violent insurrection. I think I'll contact the Department of Homeland Security and recommend that they invite themselves over to your house for a chat.

Have you noticed all the "exploitin' the worker" and "people are gonna rise up" and "suspending habius(sic)" you hear from some people. Very "Workers of the World" sounding.

Some of these guys seem to forget that trade is voluntary. If nobody wanted Chinese goods, WalMart would be full of Americcan goods.

If Mexicans couldn't do the work for less, only Americans would be doing the work. If EDS is making a mistake, they'll be punished by their customers. Oh yeah, that's already happening.

Luckily, someone who's a math major is very employable in the financial services industry. They can make the big bucks and never have to go to work at WalMart or Circuit City.

126 posted on 09/28/2004 6:54:33 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Hey, look at me, I'm a math major.)
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To: Poohbah

Well, since we've been over the ground about pedro, I'm not responding to that tripe. You are what you are - a profiteer from treason.

As for your commentary on my work associates, you're talking about the american people. People forced out of their jobs to fulfill your lust for more filthy lucre. There aren't any jobs here of any great worth to be had. And these folks are facing tough choices you're too good for. You don't know what average people deal with apparently and don't care. Right. So of course their meatballs in your opinion. You're a pos in theirs. That's why the president is running from this issue and that's why none of you will take up the challenge to have a televised conference wherein all you free traders give up your jobs to mexican, indian or chinese labor and go find something else to do. Good for us, good for you... right. Yeah, didn't think so.

And I'm sure you've been fired many times.

As for your moronic bs about homeland security.. You do that and I'll be laughing my behind off as they cart you off for false reporting. I've made no such threat. You guys really can be pathetic.


137 posted on 09/28/2004 7:59:34 AM PDT by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade.)
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