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To: cardinal4
The "counter culture" of the 60's and 70's was. predominantly, libertarian (if they had a political philosophy at all). Some, of course, were simply hedonists.

The communists saw them all as "useful idiots" and hijacked them and their symbols and presumed them within a larger communist global revolution.

I still, frankly, cannot see how a generation, who had rightly looked upon an intrusive, overreaching government, rife with laws, rules and regulations, as the beast to be fought, tamed and rendered marginal so we could lead lives of freedom; can now seek to employ that same (but infinitely larger and more powerful)intrusive, overreaching government, rife with laws, rules and regulations, as a mechanism to impose their morality on others.

THAT was what they had fought so hard against back then...and today, they have become that which they had so hated...

Abby Hoffman was probably correct! "Never trust anyone over 30." The ageing hippies are now all over 30 (by a lot) and they have become authoritarians! (But, of course, they view themselves as "good hearted" authoritarians...and who could be against that?)

46 posted on 09/27/2004 6:06:37 AM PDT by steve in DC
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To: steve in DC
"The 'counter culture' of the 60's and 70's was. predominantly, libertarian"

No way! They were primarily socialists & communists. Still are!
130 posted on 09/27/2004 7:34:18 AM PDT by Babwa
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To: steve in DC
I still, frankly, cannot see how a generation, who had rightly looked upon an intrusive, overreaching government, rife with laws, rules and regulations, as the beast to be fought, tamed and rendered marginal so we could lead lives of freedom; can now seek to employ that same (but infinitely larger and more powerful)intrusive, overreaching government, rife with laws, rules and regulations, as a mechanism to impose their morality on others. THAT was what they had fought so hard against back then...and today, they have become that which they had so hated...

That is so well stated. So true.

150 posted on 09/27/2004 8:36:14 AM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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To: steve in DC
The "counter culture" of the 60's and 70's was. predominantly, libertarian (if they had a political philosophy at all). Some, of course, were simply hedonists.

The communists saw them all as "useful idiots" and hijacked them and their symbols and presumed them within a larger communist global revolution.

I still, frankly, cannot see how a generation, who had rightly looked upon an intrusive, overreaching government, rife with laws, rules and regulations, as the beast to be fought, tamed and rendered marginal so we could lead lives of freedom; can now seek to employ that same (but infinitely larger and more powerful)intrusive, overreaching government, rife with laws, rules and regulations, as a mechanism to impose their morality on others.

THAT was what they had fought so hard against back then...and today, they have become that which they had so hated...

Abby Hoffman was probably correct! "Never trust anyone over 30." The ageing hippies are now all over 30 (by a lot) and they have become authoritarians! (But, of course, they view themselves as "good hearted" authoritarians...and who could be against that?)

I wish I could make that my new tagline.

206 posted on 09/27/2004 10:53:06 AM PDT by My back yard (C'mon Dan, you ruse you lose!!!)
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