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Dan Rather's producer
www.townhall.com ^ | 9/25/04 | Robert Novak

Posted on 09/25/2004 12:40:46 PM PDT by lancer

WASHINGTON -- The executive producer of CBS's "60 Minutes" midweek broadcast, who partially blamed the Bush White House for bogus documents used by Dan Rather, is a former staffer for New York Democrats who was still making political contributions while on the network's payroll.

Josh Howard served on the staff of Rep. Stephen Solarz and worked for Sen. Charles Schumer when Schumer was a state assemblyman, a background confirmed by CBS. Federal election reporting records show that Howard, identifying himself as a CBS employee, contributed $1,000 in each of Solarz's last two campaigns for Congress in 1990 and 1992.

When CBS first conceded possible defects in the documents about George W. Bush's military service, Howard said: "If the White House had just raised an eyebrow -- they didn't have to say they were forgeries -- but if there was any hint that there was a question, that would have sent us back."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 60minutes; arrogance; bias; cbs; charlesschumer; corruption; danrather; democratparty; guarddocuments; joshhoward; rathergate; schumer; solarz; stephensolarz; tangdocs
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The entire network is rotten to the core, IMNSHO.
1 posted on 09/25/2004 12:40:47 PM PDT by lancer
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To: lancer
"If the White House had just raised an eyebrow -- they didn't have to say they were forgeries -- but if there was any hint that there was a question, that would have sent us back."

What a stupid Clymer. Did it ever occur to him that Karl Rove knew that!

2 posted on 09/25/2004 12:44:01 PM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: lancer
-Howard said: "If the White House had just raised an eyebrow -- they didn't have to say they were forgeries -- but if there was any hint that there was a question, that would have sent us back."

Imagine that! 'we don't have to prove they're real. "You" do!'

3 posted on 09/25/2004 12:44:49 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: Semper Paratus

Excellent point. I can just see Rove saying "If CBS wants to hang themselves we'll give them all the rope they need."


4 posted on 09/25/2004 12:46:27 PM PDT by eggman (With CBS and lies as with cats and hairballs - expect the unexpectorated.)
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To: lancer

What I would like to know is how many other networks follow the same underhanded process of coordinating their 'news' stories with the dem candidates.....AROUND THE COUNTRY.


5 posted on 09/25/2004 12:46:53 PM PDT by OldFriend (It's the soldier, not the reporter who has given US freedom of the press)
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To: LibFreeUSA
If CBS had just listened to what people interviewed in their all-too-brief investigation told them, they would have known not to run with these documents. But they we DESPERATE to hurt Bush and this looked like the only thing at hand.
6 posted on 09/25/2004 12:47:38 PM PDT by Montfort
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To: LibFreeUSA

Here's what I don't get; What the heck was so damaging about these memos even if they were real ( and I know they're not)? I can see the White House looking at them and saying, "yeah, so what, we've been over this many times" and blowing the guy off. JMHO.


7 posted on 09/25/2004 12:48:37 PM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: lancer
they didn't have to say they were forgeries

As Hitchens said the other night, they're not forgeries, they are fabrications of documents that never, ever existed.

My question to the panel would be: How do you forge documents that never existed?

8 posted on 09/25/2004 12:50:08 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: lancer
"If the White House had just raised an eyebrow -- they didn't have to say they were forgeries -- but if there was any hint that there was a question, that would have sent us back."

No CBS would have pounced on the denial and called it stonewalling. Nice try, but I don't believe for a minute that doubts from the White House would have caused CBS to back off and look more closely.

9 posted on 09/25/2004 12:50:36 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Santorum 2008)
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To: OldFriend
"What I would like to know is how many other networks follow the same underhanded process of coordinating their 'news' stories with the dem candidates.....AROUND THE COUNTRY.

Easy answer---all of them (except "maybe" FOX). Watching ABC NEWS is like watching a Kerry policital ad. They ALWAYS have an early lead with a LONG video clip of a Kerry speech that just happens to allude to some other story (usually Iraq). Noticeably, there is NEVER a balancing comment/clip from the Republican side shown

10 posted on 09/25/2004 1:00:29 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: lancer

I totally agree with you. I think Zell Miller said it best .. the dem party has been taken over by people who's only goal is to take down a sitting president during wartime.


11 posted on 09/25/2004 1:26:55 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Sen.Miller said, "Bush is a God-fearing man with a good heart and a spine of tempered steel")
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One of the other people they refused to air was a former roommate of Bush .. their reason for not showing this interview .. the guy was too favorable to Bush.

I guess the CBS people are too stupid to pick up on that statement as an indication of total bias against the President.


12 posted on 09/25/2004 1:34:21 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Sen.Miller said, "Bush is a God-fearing man with a good heart and a spine of tempered steel")
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To: lancer

13 posted on 09/25/2004 1:37:17 PM PDT by Tamzee (Ted Koppel --- "....the media will need a stepstool to rise to the level of used car salesmen.")
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To: lancer

Howard said: "If the White House had just raised an eyebrow -- they didn't have to say they were forgeries -- but if there was any hint that there was a question, that would have sent us back."

Can you imagine if the "White House" had tried to stop the story? The CBS slant would be "Those in the White House did everything possible to Stop this story!"


14 posted on 09/25/2004 1:40:16 PM PDT by onevoter
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"Can you imagine if the "White House" had tried to stop the story? The CBS slant would be "Those in the White House did everything possible to Stop this story!"

I guess liberals figure it's our responsibility to keep them from being brainless fanatics. Or something...

15 posted on 09/25/2004 1:44:17 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: NavySEAL F-16

There is some sense of forgery where the signatures were added. If those were checks and the signatures applied as these were, they would certainly be called "forgeries." However, the point about fabrication is certainly well taken.


16 posted on 09/25/2004 1:49:34 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: MizSterious

True. You just have to wonder about a "forged" signature on "fabricated" documents. LOL

What bothers me is that by using "forgeries" to describe all the documents, they are giving the impression that they had the original documents and just "copied" them.

They are just trying to give a false impression.


17 posted on 09/25/2004 2:01:34 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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To: NavySEAL F-16

In the pursuit of accuracy, they should be saying, "fabrications, with forged signatures." I won't hold my breath.


18 posted on 09/25/2004 2:06:09 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: jennyjenny

I agree. So what if he missed a physical exam. Big deal!

WHO'S going to care? The hippy pot smokin liberal Vietnam democRAT generation? they don't care a toot! and the patriotic 'defend-America' crowd? Well, they will take W in a blind's eye over that commie lovin "Effing" Kerry.


19 posted on 09/25/2004 2:17:46 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: jennyjenny

What the heck was so damaging about these memos even if they were real ( and I know they're not)? I can see the White House looking at them and saying, "yeah, so what, we've been over this many times" and blowing the guy off. JMHO.

What was damaging was that the producers/CBS/Dan Rather were trying to say that Bush did not show up for his required health exam due to the fact that they had just started checking for drugs that year....oh, and then conveniently Kitty Kelly came out the next week and said that Bush took drugs.....and she happened to also mention that Bush did not show up for health exam.....this was explained on one of the freerepublic posts and makes the most sense! But, they did not succeed for many reasons and it came back to them.....YES!!!


20 posted on 09/25/2004 2:40:54 PM PDT by IndianPrincessOK (Native American pleading for Truth!)
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