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Got a notice of Insufficient Funds yesterday on my PNC Bank account here in Pittsburgh, and the expected bank charge. Went to branch to inquire about it, and was given a printout of recent activity. On September 21, an outfit called "NET ANGELS" debited my account for $180.93, enough to tip me into insufficiency. I used ALL CAPS because that's the way it came out on the bank's printout. Also in all caps was this: WWW.NETANGE GB, the last of which may stand for Great Britain.

I cancelled the card (but not the account, which I use for my small business), the bank is sending me a protest form, and they have also flagged the account not to accept any more debits from this source.

I have never heard of this outfit. I went through two years of check registry, and cannot find anything I bought from any company with a name like this (under the theory that some shady operator tried to hit my account again, for the heck of it).

You can't Google it, and trying the URL is no help at all. Anyone have any ideas? I do so much stuff online that I am completely lost. Could it be some domain registry company? My wife says it sounds like it might be a porn site; maybe it does, but I admit to nothing! Seriously, I need to get to the bottom of this, and would appreciate any and all ideas/suggestions. Thanks, Freepers.

1 posted on 09/25/2004 8:46:26 AM PDT by John Robertson
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Your post caught my eye because I've just contacted the same bank over some questionable payments from my account.

Over the past few weeks there have been 4 payments made on checks that are out of sequence (check numbers approximately 300 higher than those I'm currently on). I have the checks charged to the account in my possession, yet PNC paid them. They've been for $300.00 three times and $150.00 the other, for a total of $1050.00. I noticed it when I balanced the account after getting an unexpected NSF charge (actually four NSF's at once, which came to $120.00).

Once in the past there was an unauthorized charge to my account for over $1600.00, also without an actual check, which overdrew my account, and when I asked PNC why they honored a charge that didn't even have an actual check that overdrew my account they said they base it on customer history and because I'd had the account for a long time and was a good customer they thought they were doing me a favor.

I'm considering changing banks. "Favors" like that are too expensive.

50 posted on 09/25/2004 10:19:03 AM PDT by intolerancewillNOTbetolerated (I suck at my current job, so PROMOTE me. - Peter-Principle Kerry)
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John

My mom got hacked about 2 years ago to the tune of about $10,000. If anyone's seen those commercials where the Cooper's are enjoying a great vacation but it's not them...that's what happened to my mom. There were plane tickets charged, jewelry, clothes, computer, etc.

It took her almost 2 years to finally get it all sorted out and recover the total amount. I would close out that account NOW (not change banks) so that no more activity can take place -- I would also call ALL of your credit card companies and have them setup a verification process for purchases or debit's over a certain amount.

Call your local police and file a report as you will need that to dispute charges made...they can then find out about NET ANGELS

Act Fast!!!!!
51 posted on 09/25/2004 10:20:30 AM PDT by MichelleWSC
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Who to contact if you suspect fraud: (web sites with info)

www.sec.gov/enforce/complaint

www.vam.fbi.gov

www.ifccfbi.gov - internet fraud complaint center

www.worldwidescam.com/ - world wide scam listings

www.stockdetective.com/ - self policing

Look for the little lock icon at the bottom or top of your Internet browser screen. When the
padlock icon shows locked then Credit Cards and other financial transactions are protected

Download this .pdf file on internet fraud..

http://www.phoenixhecht.com/PDF/InternetFraud.pdf


62 posted on 09/25/2004 11:07:43 AM PDT by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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About two weeks ago I had to stop all electronic debit from my checking account. This was paypal they were getting 100.00-300.00 at a time. Total around 1000.00.

Paypal did re-enburse ALL that we protested.

I am back to writing checks, money orders and cash.
74 posted on 09/25/2004 12:24:22 PM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (Character exalts Liberty and Freedom, Righteous exalts a Nation.)
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Go to the FTC website and click over to identity fraud. Good info.


76 posted on 09/25/2004 12:49:17 PM PDT by DOGEY
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Don't just call write them and send it either certified mail return receipt required with signature or hand deliver it and have the bank official initial and date it.
84 posted on 09/25/2004 3:00:56 PM PDT by airedale ( XZ)
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