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Have just found out a "group home" is in my neighborhood.

Posted on 09/24/2004 10:17:55 PM PDT by OldBlondBabe

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To: Old Professer
Being a drunk doesn't make one an expert on the causes and consequences of alcoholism.

And your implication is what...? That I am unqualified to comment about how being sexually assaulted has affected me, because I am not an "expert". Ok, I do have alphabet soup behind my name, but not in psychology. Do you?

161 posted on 09/25/2004 12:30:43 PM PDT by Aracelis
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To: Old Professer
How do we balance information against the instillation of fear?

I guess a parent must exert the effort to really know and understand their children, and craft their lessons about the world in terms the child can understand and appreciate. A little fear sometimes is a powerful motivator, wouldn't you say?

162 posted on 09/25/2004 12:38:33 PM PDT by Aracelis
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To: OldBlondBabe

Go down there and ask if any of them wants to mow your lawns.


163 posted on 09/25/2004 12:38:38 PM PDT by snopercod (O beautiful for heroes proved, In liberating strife. Who more than self the country loved...)
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To: GatorGirl
I wouldn't really worry so much about the sex offenders we know, I'd worry more about all those other neighbors you don't know

Precisely the point.

164 posted on 09/25/2004 12:39:24 PM PDT by Aracelis
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To: Aracelis

thanks for the post--i'm going to use that paper in a class i teach on sexual disorders.
i spoke with some people in the local probation dept. who work with sex offenders, particularly pedophiles. their impression is that the offenders lie, and that they have to be monitored extremely closely. they had some rather chilling tales to tell about some of these guys.
i'm sure some offenders get better, but i assume that most don't. i would prefer close monitoring by parole and probation depts. if they re-offend, the monitoring (after prison) should be life-long.
the probation officers make them take lie-detector tests, because so much of what the offenders say are lies. the PO's also check their computers for pornography.


165 posted on 09/25/2004 12:50:02 PM PDT by drhogan
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To: Aracelis

wow! that was an amazing post.


166 posted on 09/25/2004 12:56:08 PM PDT by drhogan
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To: drhogan
Thank you for reading it.
167 posted on 09/25/2004 12:59:16 PM PDT by Aracelis
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To: FITZ
but criminals with prior convictions --- mentally ill or not should not live in neighborhoods with children either.

I'll buy that if someone is fighting to get someone locked back up. However, if you're just trying to get them out of your neighborhood (In my 40 years, I've never seen one without children btw) you don't have my support, because they'll just be in somone elses neighborhood.

168 posted on 09/25/2004 1:06:56 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Aracelis

As much as it will pain you, one day you will see the whole person behind your child's mask; you may likely be pleasantly surprised.


169 posted on 09/25/2004 1:08:30 PM PDT by Old Professer (The Truth always gets lost in the Noise.)
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To: FITZ
You don't put them in a neighborhood with kids.

IMHO, there are only 2 choices here. Locked away, or in neighborhoods. All neighborhoods have children in them. If you're living in society, there are children nearby.

170 posted on 09/25/2004 1:08:54 PM PDT by Melas
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To: drhogan

While that position may be quite profitable for you I must question how it serves we who must tolerate or avoid those who you know are simply marking time.


171 posted on 09/25/2004 1:10:12 PM PDT by Old Professer (The Truth always gets lost in the Noise.)
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To: Melas

The logical conclusion is to put them into a Del Web community (or some other old folks only place). After all they don't allow children (and it will serve them right).


172 posted on 09/25/2004 1:10:34 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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To: QuodErat

Problem with that idea is that current real estate laws give sellers little or no control over who they can sell their property too. Essentially, you have to sell to anyone who can meet your price.


173 posted on 09/25/2004 1:11:55 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Chemist_Geek

Then you volunteer you next door house for the sex offender?


174 posted on 09/25/2004 1:13:09 PM PDT by wattsmag2
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To: wattsmag2
You don't put them in a neighborhood with kids.

I'll say it. If a sex offender has to live next to door to anyone, he has just as much right to live next door to me in the suburbs, as he has to live in the apartment across the hall from a family in an inner city. The problem with this whole mindset that permeates this thread is that unless you lock them back up, denying them the house next door just puts them next door to someone else. Nothing is solved.

175 posted on 09/25/2004 1:34:58 PM PDT by Melas
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To: OldBlondBabe
After looking at some more of the relevant laws and court decisions (the Fair Housing Act, the Americans with Disabilities Act, etc.), it appears that complaining about the group home will undermine the complaint about the sex offender. Efforts to shut down a group home could result in the disabled people filing a civil rights lawsuit, and that could be very expensive.

The way your post was written, it appears that the presence of a group home in your neighborhood was the primary complaint, and the presence of the sex offender was only a secondary concern. The headline and content of your article would have been more effective if the group home were not the main topic of the post, and the sentence about the sex offender had been expanded to become the main focus of the article.

176 posted on 09/25/2004 1:48:10 PM PDT by HAL9000
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To: Melas

Actually, what it means is that it was dissolved due to poor management. We have several group homes in our area that blend in well and make good neighbors. It's the mismanaged ones that cause problems.


177 posted on 09/25/2004 1:51:13 PM PDT by RecallMoran (The left would RATHER lie)
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To: Melas

Then lock them up. They are institutionalized whether it be in prison, or the house across the street. Obviously they are not deemed completely rehabilitated or safe lest they would not be in a "group home".

And I do not care whether that offends your sensabilities or not. I'd rather pedophiles be shot anyway.


178 posted on 09/25/2004 1:52:54 PM PDT by wattsmag2
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To: HAL9000

The problem is not with the group home, but with it's lack of supervision. The neighbor who lives next door was told by someone in authority that there would be no sexual predators. Unless there is some mistake on the Michigan registry, he lied.

This same neighbor came home to find one of the residents "flopping" around on her pool cover. She tried to help him out and was told by the other residents that he was off his meds and not to touch him. The supervisor did not offer assistance to the man. He was able to get out himself and proceeded to run around people's yards until his mother came in a car to take him off somewhere, still soaking wet. We do not believe, based on the description provided on the registry that the one on the pool is the sex offender.


180 posted on 09/25/2004 2:01:56 PM PDT by OldBlondBabe
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