Well, there are better things to champion, certainly, but I also think animal cruelty should be halted whenever possible. This is a good case in point. I'm not talking about going to extremes (I enjoy my hamburgers, thank you!), but I'm also pretty much against the idea of veal because I think it's cruel. Perspective in all things.
I see, YOU want to set the rules. Do you think horses like being saddled up? Do you think those cows that make your burgers would rather you ate chicken. This is ridiculous.
There is a(one) successful employer(jobs) who will either be wiped out by this law, or he will move his business to another state like many other businesses have fled CA.
This is PETA horsesh*t period, if you examine the process of creating your burger why doesn't that bother you?
1. Claims of cruelty to the birds should be taken with large grains of salt, considering the source. Just because PETA et all say that this is what happens to the birds, it by no means follows that it's true. ALSO, livestock poultry critters are really dim -- they're not smart, they're NOT PETS. In perspective, what would be cruel to an animal of higher intelligence, may be to a domestic duck or chicken akin to "torturing" an ant.
2. " ... not talking about going to extremes ..." As far as I know, livestock cattle are starved for water before they are slaughtered; in their last days, they're bawling for water, they're so thirsty. Isn't that going to an extreme? You're right, we must keep perspective in all things. A veal calf and your mature steer are WAY dim, not smart, not like a pig or a dog or a cat ... they're NOT PETS. They're livestock to be harvested, and are bred not for smarts, but for meat. Animal cruelty is neglect and deliberate malicious torture; this is livestock food produciton, and the people involved in it probably have a much higher knowledge of, and respect and compassion for, the animals than any of us here. That has been my experience anyway, with the many, many men I've known in the fishing and ranching professions.
Agree. Conditions on factory farms are truly appalling. The animals are treated more like machines than living creatures. There's more awareness of the issue, as you see more 'free-range' eggs for sale in the supermarkets.
You're exactly right, but you can expect to be attacked here for saying so. There are a few people who are so blinded by their ideology that they've forgotten how to apply common sense to anything. If it's a lawsuit, it's automatically bad. If it involves protecting an animal from something, it's automatically PETA-loving extremism. Perspective is indeed key, so let the crap roll off your back when it arrives. I'm as genuinely conservative as anyone on this board, as is my wife who founded and runs an animal protection agency.
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