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To: bagman
"I admit that I don't know where pre-Clovis people would have come from. There apparently isn't much evidence of humans in east Siberia prior to about 18000 BC (or is that 18000 years ago), although I wonder how thoroughly the fossil record in Siberia is known."

Iberia, Not Siberia

19 posted on 09/24/2004 7:04:01 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Hope you're okay after Ivan -- and prepared for the next one! I have no idea where the first Americans came from -- Iberia or Siberia. There simply isn't any bodsy of evidence I'm prepared to accept yet. But anyone who really thinks about these things should wonder why advanced "American" cultures seemed to be centered in MesoAmerica and south of the equator.

If the Clovis people were first, where are the North American cities/structures comparable to Olmec structures in Mexico or many areas in Peru and Colombia? Where did the Maya learn their civil engineering? How did the Moche and other South American cultures become so sophisticated at metallurgy and other difficult skills like stone carving?

Based on the evidence available to my own 'lying eyes,' it's clear that the more advanced civilizations were moving north, not south. Whether these people came from Iberia, Australia, what is presently Japan and China or even Africa, they clearly came by boat. And they came much earlier than the Clovis dogmatists think.

22 posted on 09/24/2004 7:22:44 PM PDT by Bernard Marx (I try to take one day at a time, but sometimes several days attack me at once.)
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