[citizenmike]

You said "What part of the country are you from? I'll bet I can find property rights and land use abuses by your area government."

I live near Atlanta, Georgia. I would be interested in learning about land use abuses around here. The only abuses I am aware of are those instigated by large businesses who want to profit from from their land use but without consideration for how their activities impact their neighbors.

But I also want to get back to the orginal topic. If conservation could be enacted without loss of freedom or property rights (such as a situtation where the majority of citizens agree on a course of action) would you be for conservation or against it?

[hedgetrimmer]

The only abuses I am aware of are those instigated by large businesses who want to profit from from their land use but without consideration for how their activities impact their neighbors

Gee, if civics were still taught in American schools, you might have learned there are constitutional protects that keep your neighbors from harming you or your land by their activities.

That being said, why do you always quote "property rights" ?

If you are finding large businesses who are abusing other people's property you will probably find them hand in hand with a corrupt politician.

If people aren't allow the right of economic use of their land then they aren't allowed property rights.Whether you are a large landowner or small, your right to the economic use of your property should be the same.

[farmfriend]

If conservation could be enacted without loss of freedom or property rights (such as a situtation where the majority of citizens agree on a course of action) would you be for conservation or against it?

For it. When I was Legislative Director for the California State Grange, I supported a program that would do just that. The current system of environmental protection does nothing to help the environment and actual harm by these policies has been documented.

The only abuses I am aware of are those instigated by large businesses who want to profit from from their land use but without consideration for how their activities impact their neighbors.

The system I promote would take care of that problem as well. Are you interested in learning more?

[farmfriend]

I live near Atlanta, Georgia. I would be interested in learning about land use abuses around here. The only abuses I am aware of are those instigated by large businesses who want to profit from from their land use but without consideration for how their activities impact their neighbors.

Here you go. It took me all of two minutes to find this one. It does involve a large corporation but you can see that this corporation is conservation minded and tried to do the right thing. If I have to I will go find a small fry as well.

[farmfriend]

I live near Atlanta, Georgia. I would be interested in learning about land use abuses around here.

Ok, here is a small fry.