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Democrats, Expecting Bush's Re-election, Prepare to Flee America
News Max ^ | Steven Morgan

Posted on 09/23/2004 1:50:34 PM PDT by PaulaB

SALT LAKE CITY - Happiness and joy: What made a recent vacation perfect was the first sign of dour Democrats preparing to flee America at the prospect of President Bush’s re-election.

Having escaped Florida's dog days and Hurricane Frances, we were passing through lovely Utah when, to check a restaurant listing, we picked up something called City Weekly, one of those free left-wing yuppie tabloids that infest most sizable cities. Our heart soared when we took a gander at this item, even though we realize most limousine leftists will remain as firmly ensconced in America as Alec Baldwin:

Canada. Costa Rica. New Zealand. They’ve all come up in conversation as a variety of people ask the pressing question, "Where can we go?” They’re not talking about an idyllic vacation. They’re talking about an escape hatch, a Plan B in case the elections don’t go as they hope. It’s a question I hear asked frequently these days from people of various political persuasions. They aren’t the young and disillusioned with nothing to lose. They are mainstream, thoughtful, well-established people who own their homes, have good paying jobs, dutifully pay their taxes and vote in every election. But they’re nervous about what might happen come November and beyond.

"You know how Fortune comes out with the ‘10 Best Places to Live in America?’ Well, we need a list of the ‘10 Best Places for Disgusted Americans,’” a well-heeled gentleman who owns his own business told me over lunch. "Vancouver is too cold, but I don’t like the tropics. They make me too lazy. There must be a place like Oregon that’s outside the grasp of George Bush.”

Like most who toy with the idea, it’s doubtful he’ll move out of the country. He has too much invested in his life and career here, as do so many of his generation. Of those who have threatened to flee, I know of only one couple that has followed through. Charles and Marilyn, who asked that I not use their last names, have sold their East Bench home, given away expensive appliances, tools, and furniture, and found a place in western Canada outside the rain zone.

The two retired professionals say they have lost faith in the direction America is taking. "It’s not just Bush,” says Charles. "The wealthy and powerful have essentially bought the government, the Congress, the presidency for George Bush, the Supreme Court, and, in states where courts are elected, they’ve bought courts. They’ve bought legislatures in every state capital. And there’s no way that these people are going to go against business. It doesn’t matter if Kerry or Bush or Nader is elected. The courts will do what pleases business. The problem I have is that half the people in this country think that’s right. People are totally irrational.”

"I don’t understand why people aren’t rising up,” says Marilyn. "But the materialistic culture keeps people so busy acquiring stuff and taking care of stuff that they’re too busy to fight.”

"They’re inert,” adds Charles.

Worse than a materialistic culture too sated to respond to big business hijacking its government, Marilyn sees a culture in decline. She cites parallels to the way the Roman Empire fell: "Things are too far gone to be corrected. There’s going to be real unpleasantness.”

Their decision to leave has elicited a wide range of responses, from indignation and charges of paranoia to envy. "We’ve been approached by people who want to pick our brains on how to do it,” says Marilyn. "It’s not simple to pick up and leave. All the things you have to deal with in a measured way take some planning.”

The couple is still working out the details, but they plan to go into Canada as "seasonal visitors” and hold onto their U.S. citizenship for Medicare and Social Security purposes.

"You only get one shot at life,” says Marilyn, who has worked on many social causes. "People say we should stay and fight, but when you see the tide coming in, you move. You have to know when to hold and know when to fold.”

Marilyn and Charles have decided it’s time to fold.

'Made Me Puke'

After a great hiking trip in Idaho, Oregon and northern Utah, we passed through Salt Lake two weeks later and picked up another issue of City Weekly. Among the letters to the editor was this rib tickler:

Blowing Chunks in Their Trunks The story of Americans "Charles and Marilyn” fleeing to Canada because of problems here in the United States made me puke ["Flight From Bushland,” Voices, Sept. 2, City Weekly]. They have an "East Bench” home containing "expensive appliances, tools, and furniture,” yet they somehow condemn American culture for becoming too "materialistic.”

But the thing really causing me to blow chunks is Charles and Marilyn are gonna be hiding deep in a bunker in western Canada while still collecting Social Security and Medicare checks from good ole Uncle Sam. Uncle Sam will still be feeding and protecting Charles and Marilyn—just as he always has—and no matter how wrong-headed they have become.


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To: tiki
"We need to have a fundraiser to help these poor people."

KEEP AMERICA CLEAN!

HELP DUMP A DEM!

Forward all donations to:
Liberal Sewage Disposal
Fallujah, Iraq.

81 posted on 09/23/2004 2:34:40 PM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: epow

82 posted on 09/23/2004 2:35:41 PM PDT by PaulaB (From Kerry they get a yes-no-maybe bowl of mush that can only encourage enemies and confuse friends)
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To: PaulaB

Gosh, I didn't see France on the list of most desired new homes.


83 posted on 09/23/2004 2:35:54 PM PDT by daybreakcoming
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To: PaulaB
According to law if you stay out of the United States for more than 30 days you must have your Social Security transfered to that countries social security system or lose your benefits. It is, as I read the law on the Social Security web site, against the law to collect social security if you are out of the United States for more than thirty (30) days. So we need to find out who is living outside the US, drawing social security and report them so their checks can be stopped.
84 posted on 09/23/2004 2:36:36 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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To: smiley
Hello,

You all know that these people won't leave...damn it!!

Glad to be here, MOgirl
85 posted on 09/23/2004 2:36:45 PM PDT by MOgirl (In memory of Walton Wayne Callahan, I love you forever.)
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To: BigLittle; PaulaB

Should read: "Democrats, Expecting Bush's Re-election, Prepare to FLEA America"


86 posted on 09/23/2004 2:37:19 PM PDT by Tulsa Brian ("Yet, Freedom, yet thy banner, torn, but flying streams like the thunderstorm against the wind.")
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To: PaulaB

Properties have opened up on the Tigris and Euphrates I hear...


87 posted on 09/23/2004 2:38:01 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: JazzX
They have an "East Bench” home containing "expensive appliances, tools, and furniture,” yet they somehow condemn American culture for becoming too "materialistic.

According to Money magazine, East Bench is the best and most exclusive neighborhood in Salt Lake City. We're dealing with hypocrites of the highest order here. No wonder they didn't want their names used.

88 posted on 09/23/2004 2:40:49 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War (Calvinism Fever: Catch It! (Or don't. It's not like it's going to do you any good anyway...))
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To: PaulaB

I hear Syria is beautiful this time of year.


89 posted on 09/23/2004 2:42:24 PM PDT by spodefly (A bunny-slippered operative in the Vast Right-Wing Pajama Party.)
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To: Ditto
As for Medicare, why would they want to keep that where you still have to pay for it while Canada has that wonderful 'government-pays-all' socialized medicine that won't cost them a single Loonie? Maybe for their "Golden Years" when he needs a by-pass or she needs hip replacement, they can hop a flight to Seattle and be treated the next day rather than waiting a year or two like they do in that wonderful non-materialistic Canada.

They are not eligible to be part of the Canadian "healthcare" system. Visitors pay cash.

90 posted on 09/23/2004 2:44:45 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War (Calvinism Fever: Catch It! (Or don't. It's not like it's going to do you any good anyway...))
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To: PaulaB

Charles Manson and "Marilyn Manson" are actually married? Who knew?


91 posted on 09/23/2004 2:47:35 PM PDT by The Loan Arranger (At least Jane Fonda "apologized".)
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To: Cacique

Perfecto!

When the Wack-O and 'Weird-O and the Left-O Get-Go . . .

Maybe, just maybe Californi-O will be a good place to live once again.

(Dreaming.)


92 posted on 09/23/2004 2:48:43 PM PDT by KiloLima ("...I have seen the character of a great nation: decent, and idealistic and strong." - GWB, 9-2-04)
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To: Searching4Justice
"There must be a place like Oregon that’s outside the grasp of George Bush.”

Why don't these idiots move to Oregon if they think it's that great....LMAO!

93 posted on 09/23/2004 2:50:15 PM PDT by BossLady (Member of the Right Wing Pajama Jihad Conspiracy.......)
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To: YOUGOTIT
According to law if you stay out of the United States for more than 30 days you must have your Social Security transfered to that countries social security system or lose your benefits. It is, as I read the law on the Social Security web site, against the law to collect social security if you are out of the United States for more than thirty (30) days. So we need to find out who is living outside the US, drawing social security and report them so their checks can be stopped.

Keep this link handy:

How To Report Fraud: Social Security Administration, Office of the Inspector General


94 posted on 09/23/2004 2:51:05 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War (Calvinism Fever: Catch It! (Or don't. It's not like it's going to do you any good anyway...))
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To: spodefly

I would imagine the Syrians would be pissed at us if all those filthy hippies moved there.


96 posted on 09/23/2004 2:53:24 PM PDT by MizzouTigerRepublican (82nd ABN Gulf war vet)
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To: goldstategop

I was raised on the east coast in a small rural community. Our phrase similar to yours is "big talk little do."


97 posted on 09/23/2004 2:53:40 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Ditto

Here you go, Democrats: The Philippines are affordable, most everyone speaks English, rent, food, transportation, utilities and help (maids/nurses/gardeners, etc..) are dirt cheap, and there's even a VA hospital in Manila (though I doubt many veterans are among those "fleeing" "Bushworld")

http://www.livinginthephilippines.com/#Expats_Life


98 posted on 09/23/2004 2:57:17 PM PDT by The Loan Arranger (At least Jane Fonda "apologized".)
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To: PaulaB

We should be so lucky. These hypocritical whiners will never leave.

I really wish there were some way to print out this thread and send it to "Charles" and "Marilyn," as so many posters have raised so many good points about these fools.


99 posted on 09/23/2004 2:59:27 PM PDT by Nea Wood (I considered atheism but there weren't enough holidays.)
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To: smiley

"Buh bye...don't let the door....."

LOL I tell them to go to France after a layover in the battlefields Iraq.


100 posted on 09/23/2004 2:59:32 PM PDT by GottaLuvAkitas1 (Ronald Reagan is the TRUE "Father Of Our Country".)
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