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Cleveland rated poorest big city in US
PMSNBC ^ | 09/23/04

Posted on 09/23/2004 11:26:02 AM PDT by RockinRight

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I came across this article today at work while on lunch. My co-worker used this as a reason to vote Democrat until I made a point:

Cleveland's been voting Democrat for 50 years! Doesn't look like they've done much good!

That said, this article is a bit hard on Cleveland (whaddaya expect from MSNBC). The town has come a long way since the 70s.

1 posted on 09/23/2004 11:26:02 AM PDT by RockinRight
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To: RockinRight

According to Drew Carey, Cleveland Rocks!


2 posted on 09/23/2004 11:27:46 AM PDT by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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To: trebb

The Flats area certainly does.


3 posted on 09/23/2004 11:28:49 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: RockinRight
If one follows the MSM, then one would have to guess that Cleveland has been run exclusively by Republicans.

Find me a civilization run by RATS, and I'll show you a civilization in decline.

4 posted on 09/23/2004 11:28:55 AM PDT by lormand (Dead People Vote DemocRAT)
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To: RockinRight
Largest Slovenian city outside of Slovenia. Home of Commie Kusinic. What more needs to be said.



5 posted on 09/23/2004 11:29:12 AM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat)
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To: RockinRight

Take a bow Carl Stokes & Dennis Kuchinich.
You laid the foundation for long term decline.


6 posted on 09/23/2004 11:30:26 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: RockinRight

Cleveland is a democratic stronghold and all it's gotten them in year after year is more trouble.

What they don't tell you in the article is that we have not only a large illegal alien population that swells the poverty numbers but also a significant middle eastern population on the west side that believes heavily in operating on a cash only basis for everything and in soaking up all the government programs they can get their hands on.

In other words they don't believe in paying taxes but they definately believe in taking government handouts.


7 posted on 09/23/2004 11:30:53 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

The east bank is basically a ghost town these days. Lot's of empty restaurants/bars. Only the old tried and true are still there.

The city alone is responsible for that debacle as well.


8 posted on 09/23/2004 11:32:27 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: RockinRight
Cleveland must only average 3 TV's and 2 SUV's per family.
9 posted on 09/23/2004 11:32:35 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: RockinRight

WE'RE NUMBER ONE! WE'RE NUMBER ONE!
IN YOUR FACE, PITTSBURGH!/


10 posted on 09/23/2004 11:33:38 AM PDT by mabelkitty (Watch for a CBS employee in a trench coat going by DeepWord.....)
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To: trebb

In many ways it does. I like Cleveland. And Drew Carey is awesome!


11 posted on 09/23/2004 11:33:38 AM PDT by RockinRight (W stands for whoop-a**!!!)
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My solution was to buy all the poor people bus tickets to another city. They never got back to me on my proposal.
12 posted on 09/23/2004 11:34:05 AM PDT by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: RockinRight

As the joke goes, what's the difference between Cleveland and the Titanic? Cleveland has a better orchestra.


13 posted on 09/23/2004 11:34:55 AM PDT by omega4412
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To: RockinRight

Maybe they should legalize casino gambling.


14 posted on 09/23/2004 11:35:10 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Alan Go!!!)
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Crushed by the loss of steel and other manufacturing jobs
Most steel and manufacturing jobs are lost due to excessive OSHA, EPA, Lawyers etc.... It drives the cost of doing business up so much it's cheaper to pay shipping costs from overseas.
And while I can't speak for all the greedy companies out there, there is a desire to keep manufacturing jobs in the US. But the company has an obligation to it's stock holders to make a profit.


15 posted on 09/23/2004 11:35:47 AM PDT by ProudVet77 (Upcoming new holiday - Vietnam Veterans Reconciliation Day - Nov 2.)
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To: omega4412
Cleveland has a better orchestra.

And don't you forget it!

16 posted on 09/23/2004 11:36:28 AM PDT by BenLurkin (We have low inflation and and low unemployment.)
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To: rdb3

(Former) Home town ping.


17 posted on 09/23/2004 11:37:21 AM PDT by BenLurkin (We have low inflation and and low unemployment.)
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To: ProudVet77

Another thing that they fail to mention in the article.

The old LTV plant was purchased by ISG (International Steel Group) who is running it so well that they are bringing a large number of workers back. I think the last round that came back was about 200.

ISG has also had the good sense to start knocking down a bunch of obsolete and unused buildings right next to the Jennings freeway that were inflating the property taxes for the site.


18 posted on 09/23/2004 11:41:26 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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The company I once worked for owned a piece of property directly across the river from LTV Steel. People from the home office were always keen on developing this 5 acres into a nigh club, like what was happening on the Flats. One or two pictures of the site was all it took. I think the property was the site of John D. Rockefeller's first oil refinery--wells had been pulling petroleum out of the ground for 15 years or more.


19 posted on 09/23/2004 11:42:51 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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Clevelanders have to get out from under the thumb of the unions. The unions are the reason that Cleveland lost the steel industry.


20 posted on 09/23/2004 11:43:06 AM PDT by uncitizen
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