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To: John Valentine
"My point, Luis, was that such things are not relevant."

So, what you're saying is that if Heinrich Himmler had been elected Germany's president a dozen years after the fall of the Third Reich, and then proceeded to fill the highest political posts in Germany with his SS cromies, suspended elections, and sought to cement himself into power by extending his term in office, that would be irrelevant to the world?

66 posted on 09/21/2004 10:22:09 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ( Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Valentine would point to the marvelous efficiency of Himmler's rail system.


67 posted on 09/21/2004 10:24:56 PM PDT by GIJoel
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To: Luis Gonzalez

My, my. You are given to hyperbole, aren't you?

You seem to be confusing Vladimir Putin and Laventi Beria.

Putin had nothing to do with the gulags, the pogroms, the purges, or the deportations of the 1930's and 1940's.

Putin's culpability is more or less equivalent to George H.W. Bush. Now, you are going to go off into some fugue about how I am spouting some sort of moral equivalcy between communism and free enterprise.

PLEASE. Don't insult my intelligence. I am making no such claim. Communism is inherently stupid and evil. It's no good even in theory, and in practice it's even worse.

But by the time Putin ascended to the top of the KGB, it was a shadow of what it once was. Putin was and is a bureaucrat, not a mass murderer like Beria.

Look, it's just a waste of time discussing things with you. You haven't a good knowledge of history, first of all, and besides, your grip on present reality isn't all that solid either.

I have better things to do that waste my time here further.


71 posted on 09/21/2004 10:32:07 PM PDT by John Valentine ("The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein)
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